topic Re: telnet prompt very slow in Operating System - HP-UX

telnet prompt very slow

jpcast_real — Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:48:05 GMT

Hello,

I have a problem when a try to login a to an HP-UX system . It seems that the telnetd process makes a reverse lookup because it takes a long time until the login screen appears . If I introduce the client IP in the host file of the hp-ux system , it goes really fast . The problem is that I must disable this test because it takes too much time.

Can anyone help me???

Re: telnet prompt very slow

RAC_1 — Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:56:43 GMT

How is your name resolution configured???
Check /etc/nsswitch.conf file.

Check DNS config for the host. Is reverse dns lookup OK for host??

How is /etc/resolv.conf configured???

Anil

Re: telnet prompt very slow

Sridhar Bhaskarla — Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:59:43 GMT

Hi Javier,

Try adding the following two lines and see if they help you.

retrans 500
retry 2

The above will timeout the server lookup after 500 ms after 2 tries.

-Sri

Re: telnet prompt very slow

Sridhar Bhaskarla — Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:02:39 GMT

I mean in resolv.conf..

-Sri

Re: telnet prompt very slow

jpcast_real — Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:03:47 GMT

This is my nsswitch configuration .

The main problem is that I can not control the IPs a clients names which try to connect to my system so the only possibility is to disable the reverse lookup in the DNS ...

Where do I have to add the retarns timeouts?? In which files??

Porthos:/home/jpcast> more /etc/nsswitch.conf
#
# /etc/nsswitch.hp_defaults:
#
# @(#)B.11.11_LR
#
# An example file that could be copied over to /etc/nsswitch.conf; it
# uses NIS (YP) in conjunction with files.
#

hosts: files [NOTFOUND=continue] dns [NOTFOUND=return]

Re: telnet prompt very slow

RAC_1 — Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:06:43 GMT

You use /etc/hosts and then DNS for name resolution for hosts. So if they are not in hosts file, you will have to take care of DNS only. Reverse lookup shold be set correctly in DNS then.

The parameters than Shridhar told are to be put in /etc/resolv.conf. For details on those parameters check the man page of resolver. (man 4 resolver)

Anil

Re: telnet prompt very slow

jpcast_real — Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:12:11 GMT

I have added them in the resolv.conf but I do not find any change :

Porthos:/etc> more /etc/resolv.conf
domain sate2.com.
search sate2.com. device.sate2.com.
retrans 500
retry 2

When I take out the IP of the client from the /etc/hosts file it takes a lot...

Re: telnet prompt very slow

Mark Greene_1 — Fri, 01 Oct 2004 12:29:47 GMT

Yes, telnet does a reverse look-up. You cannot disable this. You said: "If I introduce the client IP in the host file of the hp-ux system , it goes really fast" and this is correct.

You'll have to make reverse DNS entries for each client that you want to give access to.

mark

Re: telnet prompt very slow

jpcast_real — Mon, 04 Oct 2004 01:08:15 GMT

but my main problem is that all the users who connect to the HP-UX system do it from an external network where a DHCP server gives them an IP address . I can not control the IP address of the users who are trying to connect to the server .

Apart from this there is another problem . This server is an slave server in a DNS structure . When primary server is running everything works fine and I do not have problems at all with the reverse lookup . When I shutdown the named process in the primary DNS server my problems start . Slave DNS server is still working , nslookup also , but I do not understand why the reverse lookup takes so much time. I have upgraded to bind 9 and included bigger TTL times in the zones but the problem is the same . When the primary server is stopped , name resolution works ok but telnet and ftp access is extremely slow..

I would appreciate your comments.

Re: telnet prompt very slow

jpcast_real — Mon, 04 Oct 2004 03:37:49 GMT

Finally , telnet is much faster introducing the changes

retrans 500
retry 2

I introduced the changes but I didnt't feel the improvement until I rebooted the system. I thought that making changes in resolv.conf didn't need a reboot...???

Thanks a lot..

Re: telnet prompt very slow

Mike Patterson — Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:00:08 GMT

I can verify that slow telnet HP-UX login prompts can definitely be caused by a DNS server failing to promptly provide reverse lookups. We run Cisco Network Registrar (CNR) DNS servers. If the reverse lookup indexes become corrupt on the primary DNS, then prompts get real slow. Eventually, the secondary DNS kicks in and the prompt appears. We rebuild the CNR reverse lookup indexes to fix the problem. My followup question is this: why don't our other systems running other brands of UNIX experience the slow telnet logins under these conditions? (SSH will replace telnet as resources allow.) Thanks in advance.

Re: telnet prompt very slow

Bill Hassell — Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:56:16 GMT

There is no way to disable the reverse lookups (given an IP address, find the hostname). This is a security protocol to make sure that the device trying to gain access is authorized. DNS is very important to the security and stability of your network so every authorized computer should have reverse lookup records. It is very common for PC-based DNS servers to forget this part of DNS records. And of you need HP-UX email capability, the DNS server must also supply MX records for mail hosts.