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Upgrade ..........

Jaikishan_1 — Fri, 27 Apr 2001 04:51:44 GMT

Dear ,
My System( N Class ) is currently installed with General Release Patch Ver : B.11.00.47.05 , I want to upgrade to B.11.00.51.2 ( having the upgrade media ).

And also Critical Patches currently Ver : B.11.00.47 and want ot upgrade to B.11.00.51.2

I`ve tried to so but it has given me too many errors....Please suggest me how to go about this.....
Thanxs in Advance.Any Kind of help will be appreciated.

JAI

Re: Upgrade ..........

Thierry Poels_1 — Fri, 27 Apr 2001 06:21:23 GMT

Hi,
what do you really mean with "errors".
If you install the full general patch bundle, you will indeed receive lots of "errors" and warnings because lots of patches are not relevant to your system: patches for software that you don't have, patches for either 32- or 64-bit, ...
Thierry.

Re: Upgrade ..........

Paula J Frazer-Campbell — Fri, 27 Apr 2001 06:22:49 GMT

Hi

Can you post the errors here? I helps to point you in the right direction.

Paula

Re: Upgrade ..........

Stefan Farrelly — Fri, 27 Apr 2001 06:27:37 GMT

When you upgrade the patch bundles you are going to get some errors and warnings. Its only natural. There are patches inside the bundle not for your architecture, or for applications you dont have installed, or because you already have these patches installed via a previous bundle etc. Its nothing to worry about.

eg. On trying to upgrade one of our K-class to the Dec2000 GR bundle we get the following errors/warnings.

* Summary of Analysis Phase:
ERROR: Exclude PHKL_22208.VXFS-ADV-KRN,r=1.0
ERROR: 1 of 683 filesets had Errors.
* 316 of 683 filesets will be Skipped.
* 366 of 683 filesets had no Errors or Warnings.
ERROR: The Analysis Phase had errors. See the above output for details.

As you can see 1 patch will be excluded, thats fine, 316 will be skipped (probably already installed or not needed). As long as you use the correct command to install the patches all will be fine. Go for it.

Re: Upgrade ..........

Jaikishan_1 — Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:33:12 GMT

The Message I got.....
* Summary of Analysis Phase:
*17 of 17 filesets will be Skipeed
*The Analysis Phase succeeded.

Should I proceed for the Installation or Upgradation....

Rgds

Jai

Re: Upgrade ..........

Stefan Farrelly — Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:04:59 GMT

If the anaylsis said its going to ship 17 of 17 filesets then its not going to install anything at all so dont bother. These patches must either be already installed or not apply to your server.

Remember, the Critical patches are a subset of the General Release patch bundle, so if you install the GR bundle then the critical patches are included. Thats what we do here, only use the GR bundle.

Re: Upgrade ..........

Thierry Poels_1 — Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:14:57 GMT

17 of 17 filesets skipped ?
So there is nothing to install, you are up-to-date.
(note the patch CD contains several depots : General Release patches, Hardware Critial patches and latest diagnostics software)
regards,
Thierry.

Re: Upgrade ..........

Thierry Poels_1 — Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:25:04 GMT

uh? Stefan Critical patches included in General patches? Don't think so.

XSWHWCR1100: new hardware + critical/Y2K patches
XSWGR1100: Core OS software patches + Core OS Y2K changes.
regards,
Thierry.

Re: Upgrade ..........

James R. Ferguson — Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:40:46 GMT

Hi All:

Yes, Stefan is correct (he usually is!). The "HWCR" bundles are subsets of the "GR" ones. You can see this by comparing the contents [Maintenance & Support -> Standard Patch Bundles -> View Support Plus Releases].

With regards!

...JRF...

Re: Upgrade ..........

Jaikishan_1 — Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:57:23 GMT

Dear All,
A Small Query....
In Summary of Logfile it says "17 of 17 skipped ", nothing to install....but still with swlist command i can see the same old version.....

Jai

Re: Upgrade ..........

Thierry Poels_1 — Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:33:55 GMT

Jim,
being a bad loser ;) I did compare GR & HWCR patches one per one and I did find some patches in HWCR which were not available in the GR bundle. But I do have to admit that I was rather amazed that the difference was very small.
regards,
Thierry.

Re: Upgrade ..........

James R. Ferguson — Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:48:28 GMT

Hi Thierry:

WOW! Which one did you compare? Everytime I've checked I found them as I stated.

You're not a bad loser at all! Your contributions are excellent!

...JRF...

Re: Upgrade ..........

Thierry Poels_1 — Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:55:00 GMT

10.20
PHCO22627
P???22900 (can't read my own writing, sjips ;)

11.00
PHCO21267
PHCO22628
PHCO22839
PHKL20675
PHKL22807
PHNE15472
PHNE19633

and others ...
regards,
Thierry.

Re: Upgrade ..........

Stefan Farrelly — Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:07:57 GMT

Theres a couple of issues here;

1. These bundles are designed to work together as a bundle, so not all patches in the HWCR bundle may be in a larger GR bundles because they dont work together so well.

2. These bundles are not necessarily committed at the same time, so its possible newer versions of a patch may make it in to one bundle but not the other, so again very slight differences may result, which I believe you are seeing.

However, HP clearly state in their documentation that the HWCR bundle is a subset of the GR bundle.

Re: Upgrade ..........

Servio Cabrera — Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:12:56 GMT

The proper way to upgrade a patch bundle is to use swinstall option Actions->Manage Patch Selection-->check on "Automatically select patch..." -->Ok. Then you will have a list-->Action-->Install.

Re: Upgrade ..........

James R. Ferguson — Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:11:34 GMT

Hi Thierry (and others):

I examined the contents of the March 2001 GR1100 and HWCR1100 bundles in a bit more detail back through the Patch Database.

You're right that I couldn't match patch-for-patch exactly, but I can account for patches addressing the same fundamental issues if only in slightly later form. For instance:

PHCO_21267 in HWCR incorporates PHCO_21187 in GR

PHCO_22628 in HWCR incorporates PHCO_21315 in GR

PHCO_22686 in HWCR incorporates PHCO_21892 in GR

PHCO_22733 in HWCR incorporates PHCO_15220 in GR

PHCO_22839 in HWCR incorporates PHCO_21630 in GR

Clearly, this is the moving-target or Heisenberg Uncertainty Principal in operation. With my regards!

...JRF...