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Anyone seen this article?

Duncan Edmonstone — Tue, 11 May 2004 10:53:37 GMT

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15834

In my experience the inquirer gets a kick out of bashing HP, so I don't give it much credibility, but it would be nice for a HP person to squash this FUD quickly...

Is it just me, or do the IT press seem to be going in the same direction as TV and newspaper press, in that they're trying to *make* the news, rather than *report it*

Cheers,

Duncan

Re: Anyone seen this article?

Uwe Zessin — Tue, 11 May 2004 11:25:25 GMT

Oh well, bad news are good news for the press. I sometimes read these things as I sometimes watch one of these afternoon shows for my amusement.

Thanks, but I see that some work is waiting for me. Will you excuse me now?

Re: Anyone seen this article?

Geoff Wild — Tue, 11 May 2004 11:28:03 GMT

Hmnnn...interesting to say the "least"...

Not quite like the roadmap mentioned here:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20040219125800.html

Rgds...Geoff

Re: Anyone seen this article?

John Poff — Tue, 11 May 2004 13:41:33 GMT

Duncan,

Thanks for posting the link. I'm not worried.

Looks like a gossip columnist with a tight deadline and no story. Besides, everybody knows that the real rumors get traded over adult beverages, and not milk shakes. ;)

JP

Re: Anyone seen this article?

Ganesh Babu — Tue, 11 May 2004 13:49:42 GMT

looks like a kind of rumour.. i don't believe this..

Ganesh

Re: Anyone seen this article?

John Dvorchak — Tue, 11 May 2004 13:49:57 GMT

I have never seen the "inquirer" before but I do have one observation about the author of that article. He seems to be more concerned with sounding "cute" than reporting a piece of information. I had to read the darn thing twice to get what he could have said in two well thought out sentences. Oh well, maybe they are paying by the word and he felt compelled to use all of them he knew.

Re: Anyone seen this article?

Steven E. Protter — Tue, 11 May 2004 14:18:06 GMT

Not much meet to the article.

Clearly not a lot of fact checking.

It reads to me similar to this: Did such and such pop star break up with her boyfriend? Maybe.

Not much credence. All I've heard is there's another version of HP-UX coming.

With regards to Itanium, my suppliers indicate those servers can be picked up at a steep discount. Thats a sign of difficulty selling them. Thats a lot more meat than the article.

SEP

Re: Anyone seen this article?

Mel Burslan — Tue, 11 May 2004 14:18:11 GMT

Well, I am sure someone from HP will deny this sooner or later if the thing gets out of proportion but it is impossible to deny the trend at HP. They are aligning to be a services company rather than being a hardware/software development house. This is from the CEO's mouth in the past not something that I am making up.

They have killed or killing the most successful server architecture (maybe second after DEC/Alpha) called PA-Risc in favor of getting in bed with Intel. Yeah, they say they co developed the Itanium with intel but look whose production label is on the chip.

I do not trust HP keeping the development of HP/UX once Linux is mature enough for, ummm, Itanium ??? Look how they are yanking the chain of MPE users.

HP is a business and they do what business requires to make the shareholders happy. Less money company spends on development of products, while selling the same amount of goods (financially speaking), hardware, software or services, they will make The Street extremely happy.

This is no longer Mr. Hewlett's or Mr. Packard's company unfortunately.

I do not foresee the abandonment of HP/UX in the near future, but I am sure HP will dump it quicker than you can say "cat and a half" when the opportunity arises.

My 2 cents...

Re: Anyone seen this article?

Uwe Zessin — Tue, 11 May 2004 14:22:50 GMT

Hm. Eva is a female's name in this part of the world.

Seeing the writing style, however, it could also be an alternate identity of Mike. ;-)

Re: Anyone seen this article?

Marvin Strong — Tue, 11 May 2004 14:42:24 GMT

Well, until I hear from HP, or Intel, I will disgard that article as garbage.

Re: Anyone seen this article?

Bruno Ganino — Tue, 11 May 2004 15:21:11 GMT

I believe that this article could be only an jokey of author.
Bruno

Re: Anyone seen this article?

Gregory Fruth — Tue, 11 May 2004 15:37:13 GMT

Who really knows if the report is reliable;
it's just what a lot of people are thinking
anyway. It seems pretty shaky, but the
Inquirer does get bits right from time to
time, or at least hits too close to home
for comfort (do a search on "gulfstream").

Marvin: Ask some HP3000 MPE users how that
strategy worked out for them.

Re: Anyone seen this article?

doug mielke — Tue, 11 May 2004 15:57:30 GMT

one thing that I've noticed over the past year or so is the diluted enthusiasm in HP's press over their love affair with Intel. A year ago, Intel was the way of the future, lately HP likes to describe big Intel systems as one of many HP solutions. In another year, who can say what their relationship will be.

Re: Anyone seen this article?

Michael Tully — Tue, 11 May 2004 16:50:54 GMT

Road maps can easily be changed, just like web pages disappearing.

We'll just have to see what we'll see ...

Re: Anyone seen this article?

generic_1 — Tue, 11 May 2004 17:48:42 GMT

Perhaps AMD? :) Who knows.

I think as long as HP sticks with what it does well it will do just fine with HPUX.

I think they have a good HA product, high end database hardwares such as superdome, and customer service which gives them a good competative edge in those markets.

Re: Anyone seen this article?

Jeff Schussele — Tue, 11 May 2004 22:21:18 GMT

Hmmm....doesn't HP build their *own* Itanium chips?
If so, who gives a flying frick about Intel does or doesn't do in the future?

My 2 cents,
Jeff

Re: Anyone seen this article?

Hemanth Gurunath Basrur — Tue, 11 May 2004 22:35:32 GMT

Hi,

This is a rumour.

Refer to the foll. links from Intel Website:

http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/SP100997.HTM

http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/SP101497.HTM

HP is deploying Itanium-based solutions and has earned lot of customers.

Regards,
Hemanth

Re: Anyone seen this article?

Dani Seely — Wed, 12 May 2004 00:23:13 GMT

Sounds more like an 'urban legend'. Publicity is publicity, look at how many people read this article. It put the thought out there and I'm sure that sooner or later HP can dispell it as a rumor.

Re: Anyone seen this article?

Rita C Workman — Wed, 12 May 2004 07:02:16 GMT

..makes you understand the wisdom is the old adage:

"...believe none of what you hear and only 50% of what you see"

Rgrds,
Rita

Re: Anyone seen this article?

Robin Sod — Wed, 12 May 2004 07:27:31 GMT

try this one:

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15704

And this is no rumour, they currently have vistors from India!