topic Re: Setting up PRM Application records in Operating System - HP-UX

Setting up PRM Application records

Tor-Bjorn Jofred — Thu, 06 May 2004 08:56:55 GMT

I have three PRM groups defined.
The users are split between the groups.
This works fine.

But for a few users I would like to place the processes in different PRM groups. I try to use Application records to make it work automaticly.

My problem is that I have to known the absolute path of the binary to be able to specify the Application records. When I use the ps -ef command I can't see the complete path of the specific binary.

The "args" field presented by ps can look like
"./RunThisScript".

How can I get the absolute binary path of a process?

Thanks.

Re: Setting up PRM Application records

RAC_1 — Thu, 06 May 2004 09:12:20 GMT

ps -efx|grep "RunThisScript"

Anil

Re: Setting up PRM Application records

Tor-Bjorn Jofred — Thu, 06 May 2004 09:17:46 GMT

I still don't get the absolute path I need.

> ps -efx | grep MyServer
myadmin 21641 21638 0 09:34:50 ? 0:27 ./MyServer

Re: Setting up PRM Application records

G. Vrijhoeven — Thu, 06 May 2004 09:19:43 GMT

Hi,

I am afraid if a process is not started with the full path, you are not able to see it using ps. If you have glance installed you should be able to view the process memory regions. The TEXT is mapped on a file name. This is the full path of the executable.
If you do not have glance ( free 60 days , on application cdrom) you can always ask the application manager, the person who started the process.

Regards,

Gideon

Re: Setting up PRM Application records

Bernhard Mueller — Thu, 06 May 2004 09:22:40 GMT

Hi,

guess you are limited to:

su - myadmin (or other process owner)
which MYCOMMAND
whereis MYCOMMAND

Regards,
Bernhard

Re: Setting up PRM Application records

Hazem Mahmoud_3 — Thu, 06 May 2004 09:23:37 GMT

If the binary is specified in the PATH, you can just use the command:

# which

and that will give you the full path. So, grep for it like you are doing and if it exists, then execute the which command.

-Hazem

Re: Setting up PRM Application records

Tor-Bjorn Jofred — Thu, 06 May 2004 09:33:15 GMT

I have glance. The TEXT in Mem regions give me the following:

TEXT /Shared 2 436kb 528kb 0kb

To ask the person who started the process can be hard. Most processes are started by several levels of scripts. I hope to find a better way.

Re: Setting up PRM Application records

RAC_1 — Thu, 06 May 2004 09:40:20 GMT

You should e able to put application record as follows.

application = xxx
file = *RunThisScript*

Anil

Re: Setting up PRM Application records

Tor-Bjorn Jofred — Thu, 06 May 2004 09:43:15 GMT

The idea to use the "which" command may work, but you can be sure. The same binary name could exist in many directories.

Another problem is when the ps command gives even less information. For the oracle processes I only get something like this:

> ps -efx | grep ora_reco
oracle 21905 1 0 09:35:49 ? 0:00 ora_reco_PPK

What is the path of the binary?

Re: Setting up PRM Application records

G. Vrijhoeven — Thu, 06 May 2004 09:56:27 GMT

Hi again,

Did you try gpm. If i look at a process i get Type, File Name P/S and RSS/KB , In the file name section i get a full path. or the lvol followed by an inode number:

The inode numbers can be found with
ls -Ri in the start point of the lvol.

HTH,

Gideon

Re: Setting up PRM Application records

Tor-Bjorn Jofred — Thu, 06 May 2004 10:05:50 GMT

I actually tried to use an Application record with a dummy path, like

/usr/bin/dummy::::MYGROUP,*procName*

to check if the binary path was used.
But it didn't work.

Re: Setting up PRM Application records

G. Vrijhoeven — Thu, 06 May 2004 13:36:06 GMT

Hi again,

The alias only works if it is started from the executable provided started it. Aliases can be verry usefull for oracle processes. The processes are all started by the oracle executable, but the many process names contain ora*. Did you try a inode search?

Gideon

Re: Setting up PRM Application records

Tor-Bjorn Jofred — Thu, 06 May 2004 14:03:28 GMT

Yes I did and it was successful. I found the correct path to the binary. Now the processes are placed in the groups I wanted.
Thank you vary much.

If you don't know where the binary could be found and have to search the complete filesystem, this method could take some time.

Re: Setting up PRM Application records

G. Vrijhoeven — Thu, 06 May 2004 14:16:11 GMT

Hi,

May be a
#find /dir -inum
is quicker. just make sure /dir is the root dir of a filesystem. You can use the -xdev option if the filesystem has mount of an other filesystem in it.

Regards,

Gideon