topic Re: cloning using dd in Operating System - HP-UX

cloning using dd

u856100 — Thu, 28 Feb 2002 11:36:27 GMT

Hi all,

I am attempting to make a disk clone of the root disk on my HP machine. Can anyone give me the correct command (using dd) to replicate the entire disk.

ideally I would like to use :

dd if=/ of=/copy_of_slash

so that the entire disk is cloned.

Am I right in assuming that this is incorrect, and the raw device file for the disk should used :

dd if=/c0t6d0 of=/copy_of_rootdisk

thanks in advance for your help,

John

Re: cloning using dd

melvyn burnard — Thu, 28 Feb 2002 11:54:50 GMT

The correct syntax is
dd if=/dev/rdsk/c0t6d0 of=/dev/rdsk/new_disk_path

I have to ask why you ar edoing ghis, as dd is a dumb, bit by bit utility, and will copy over any errors or bad bits it finds.
You may want to take a look at either MirrorDisk/UX for miroring your root vg, or for disaster recovery, use Ignite/UX

Re: cloning using dd

harry d brown jr — Thu, 28 Feb 2002 11:55:03 GMT

John,

You could cause yourself a lot of headaches, because "dd" with copy everything, including badspot info, of course wiping out the receiving disks' badspot table, possibly rendering the disk useless.

You are better off using HPux mirroring. Although it's not free it doesn't cost much compared to the amount of time one would have to spend recovering a machine.

live free or die
harry

Re: cloning using dd

Olivier LEGRAND — Thu, 28 Feb 2002 11:57:33 GMT

Hi,

Try this command:

cd /;find . -xdev -print|dd of=/copy_of_slash

Regards

Re: cloning using dd

Valery Kuvaev — Thu, 28 Feb 2002 12:21:41 GMT

I agree that you shouldn't use dd, even in the manner :
dd if=/dev/rdsk/source_disk of=/dev/rdsk/target_disk

it will create probably workable clone, but not garanteed.
Especialy if target disk has a larger capacity, you probably won't have a chance to use its additional capacity.

try Ignite/UX command make_tape_recovery to make a clone

Best Wishes

Re: cloning using dd

harry d brown jr — Thu, 28 Feb 2002 13:10:36 GMT

John,

What you can do, is create a make_tape_recovery with the "-A" option, then shut your system down, and recover your OS to the other disk. This will change your "primary boot" path, but you can change that back to the other disk. Once your new disk is created, you can shut the system down and reboot (don't forget to change the primary boot path to your "normal" boot disk). Now you are ready to rock and roll.

live free or die
harry

Re: cloning using dd

Bill Hassell — Thu, 28 Feb 2002 14:12:07 GMT

Since you mentioned 'disk clone' and not copy just one filesystem (such as /), then Ignite/UX is the appropriate application, specifically make_tape_recovery. Get a free copy at sofware.hp.com

Copying / will never give you a cloned result. The resultant copy will be unable to boot. Like all operating systems, there are non-file areas at the beginning of the disk that must be copied.

Re: cloning using dd

Ralph Grothe — Thu, 28 Feb 2002 16:51:36 GMT

Hi responders,

there some statements that you shouldn't use dd to copy every bit because it could render your target disk useless.
I'm asking this because I am interested in a cheap (ok, but maybe inefficient) tool that can clone disks without requiring a specific OS.
I'm thinking of a Linux Boot disk with dd on it (no, no, I don't intend to clone a HP-UX server disk that way, just for PC disk cloning).
Say I connected the target disk as slave to second IDE controller and want to clone master disk on first IDE controller.
Wouldn't a (maybe timeconsuming)

dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdd

do the trick.
(assuming the standard 512 B block size).

How could I render the target disk useless?

I thought disk controllers do a bad block relocation?