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Best location for sys admin scripts?

Russ Hancock_1 — Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:37:51 GMT

I'm currently setting up a new HPUX 11i system, decomissioning two other servers, my question is where ideally should our house applications and scripts reside?? We currently have them all under /usr, but is there a standard that says they should go elsewhere?

Re: Best location for sys admin scripts?

Pete Randall — Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:42:28 GMT

Russ,

We put them in their own filesystem. In our case, we call it /apps. That way, a new install doesn't overwrite them (as with /usr/local/bin) - we just restore /apps.

Pete

Re: Best location for sys admin scripts?

fg_1 — Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:43:16 GMT

Hi there

Usually most in house/ad-hoc programs are loaded under the /opt filesystem. Also you
should ensure that this filesystem is large enough for sufficient growth of your log files for these applications, I tend to make my /opt
filesystems 1.5 to 2.0GB in size.

Good luck

Frank G.

Re: Best location for sys admin scripts?

Stefan Farrelly — Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:44:11 GMT

If theyre local scripts they should go under /usr/local but instead of /usr/local/bin (for system wide local scripts that all users can run) you could put them under something like /usr/local/admin (root only can access).

Re: Best location for sys admin scripts?

MANOJ SRIVASTAVA — Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:46:33 GMT

/usr/local/bin/subdirectory is where we keep all of our sysadmin scripts thsi is becasuse of 2 reasons

a. easier to specify in the path

b. the backups are taken with ignite , root fielsystems etc

Manoj Srivastava

Re: Best location for sys admin scripts?

Jose Mosquera — Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:07:15 GMT

Hi,

If you have MC-ServiceGuard installed or you are planning, pls consider keep it in *shared* place!

Rgds.

Re: Best location for sys admin scripts?

Rainer von Bongartz — Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:27:33 GMT

As these is otional software I put them under

/opt/sysadmin

Regards
Rainer

Re: Best location for sys admin scripts?

Steven E. Protter — Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:47:21 GMT

Perhaps I'm old fashioned but.

Sysadmin scripts are in.

/usr/contrib/bin

Permissions in general are 700. That way when I decide users are allowed to use them, all I have to do is change permissions.

Nobody but root can write to /usr/contrib/bin on our system.

I'm a user right? root
I contributed the script right?
some of them came from this forum? cool

P

Re: Best location for sys admin scripts?

James R. Ferguson — Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:06:44 GMT

Hi:

I like '/usr/local/' or '/usr/contrib/' for scripts used by root or scripts of general applicability. For scripts specific to database support, my preference is in a directory like '$HOME/oracle/'. For scripts specific to an application, I find a $HOME directory applicable.

Aside from standard file permissions, I'd make sure, too, that you set the sticky bit of the directory holding the scripts such that only the script's owner has the right to delete.

Most importantly, whatever you decide, be consistent.

Regards!

...JRF...

Re: Best location for sys admin scripts?

Nigel Green — Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:30:27 GMT

I agree with JRF. Whatever the decision, stick to it, and make sure that everyone else knows that if a script is located elsewhere, it could well be moved/deleted.

I'm in the unpleasant situation of having some systems with scripts in up to 10 (yes ten) different locations. (including /usr/local, /usr/contrib, /home and application directories). What's worse is that some scripts from one location call scripts from others. Ah the joys of progressive development. Guess who's going to have to sort this out (eventually).

Re: Best location for sys admin scripts?

Ian Dennison_1 — Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:48:27 GMT

Here we have gone a slightly different route, by creating a 1GB lvol called /operations on all Servers, with subdirectories for bin, etc, log, and other directories for common data.

We found it better to create our own standard than try and re-organise the existing standards. It also gives is the ability to extend the filesystem without single-user mode, and protection of the OS lvols if scripts run over and fill up filesystems.

As long as you define a standard and stick to it, and cater for the most likely maintenance / disaster scenarios, you should be fine.

Share and Enjoy! Ian

Re: Best location for sys admin scripts?

Mark Landin — Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:51:24 GMT

I usually try to keep "my" stuff (as opposed to HP's stuff) on separate volume groups so if I need to re-Ignite I don't automatically blow away all the non-HP stuff.

Re: Best location for sys admin scripts?

Mark Greene_1 — Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:46:24 GMT

All our "live" scripts on all our systems (HP, IBM, DG, RedHat) are in /usr/scripts. This standard started back in the day when this was a DG-only shop (before my time in IT, let alone here) and was done to avoid the unpleasantness found in losing them during an upgrade when /user/local/bin got overlayed.

Stuff for my own work and amusement sits in my home directory. The unwritten standard is that anything that goes into a crontab has to be moved to /usr/scripts. With only 3 admins, it's not too terribly difficult to deal with.

mark

Re: Best location for sys admin scripts?

Dave La Mar — Mon, 20 Jan 2003 19:18:23 GMT

Russ -
Our shop -

Oracle specific scripts:
/opt/apps/"specific subdirectory"

Root type scripts:

/usr/local/bin/"specific subdirectory"

In reading other responses, it appears one takes what is common to their shop and is consistent.

Best of luck.

dl

Re: Best location for sys admin scripts?

John Bolene — Mon, 20 Jan 2003 19:29:30 GMT

Our shop uses /usr/local/hertz for anything developed inhouse.

Re: Best location for sys admin scripts?

Manju Kampli — Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:51:18 GMT

its been practice to put all the sysadmin scripts under /usr/local/bin directory..

few people put these scripts in a bundle and also install it using swinstall in /opt/ as well. (easy for administration of scripts across multiple systems)

HTH,
Manju

Re: Best location for sys admin scripts?

Michael Tully — Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:57:13 GMT

You'll find a hundred different answers to this one. It purely will depend on the individual/admin team where it is best suited.
Some people place them in /usr/local/bin or somwhere else where it easily manageable. Some may have a standard bundle of tools deployed from sort of management server, where they could be developed. I have them (localised scripts) in a directory in /
The reason I do this is purely for convenience, where I may want to use them in single-user mode or doing some maintenance. Because of the small size of the number and size of the scripts in question, it does not pose a problem.

Re: Best location for sys admin scripts?

Frank Slootweg — Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:34:43 GMT

See the hier(5) manual page (i.e. "man hier") for what should go where.

If this is purely local stuff, then it should probably go in /usr/local.