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how to check hard disk for bad sectors under linux ?

'chris' — Mon, 08 Mar 2004 07:27:57 GMT

hi

how to check hard disk for bad sectors under linux ?
I use linux SuSE 8.2 and Ext3 file system.

kind regards
chris

Re: how to check hard disk for bad sectors under linux ?

Alexander Chuzhoy — Mon, 08 Mar 2004 07:41:44 GMT

try
first umount the disk partition

then
e2fsck -c umounted partition

Re: how to check hard disk for bad sectors under linux ?

Mark Grant — Mon, 08 Mar 2004 07:43:06 GMT

Have a look at the "badblocks" command. The man page describes everything useful.

Re: how to check hard disk for bad sectors under linux ?

Jerome Henry — Mon, 08 Mar 2004 08:44:10 GMT

You can also :
shutdown -rF now
forces checking on reboot.
Ext3 is a problem on checking, as partition is always considered as consistent because of the journal. It's a good idea to proceed to the file checking from time to time at boot time.
You can set it with tune2fs :
tune2fs -c 12 -i 25 /dev/hda3
for example : this will force file checking every 12 boots, or every 25 days (first delay) on hda3. It's a good idea to use it, my experience (and many others' undoubtedly !) shows that with journalisation, it's often too late when you realize that consitency is not there anymore !

hth

J

Re: how to check hard disk for bad sectors under linux ?

Mark Grant — Mon, 08 Mar 2004 09:05:19 GMT

Jerome,

I was under the impression that this does not check for bad areas on the disk, it only checks for inconsistancies in the filesystem itself. Am I wrong?

Re: how to check hard disk for bad sectors under linux ?

'chris' — Mon, 08 Mar 2004 09:13:09 GMT

hi Jerome

I've forgotten: my /boot is on Ext2 file system and rest on Ext3

# df -T
Filesystem Type 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda3 ext3 41286828 7017948 32171596 18% /
/dev/hda1 ext2 46636 6008 38220 14% /boot
/dev/hda4 ext3 35364880 1866420 31701992 6% /usr
shmfs shm 386252 0 386252 0% /dev/shm

can I use this command

tune2fs -c 12 -i 25 /dev/hda

for the whole disk an all partitions ?

greetings
chris

Re: how to check hard disk for bad sectors under linux ?

Jerome Henry — Mon, 08 Mar 2004 09:17:04 GMT

Ooops ! Yes, you are right Mark !
Even if both problems are related, the right command is undoubtedly here badblocks -nsv /dev/hda1 n to make non destructive tests, s to tell you which blocks are tested (be careful : slooows the process), and v to tell you if everything goes right.

Obviously 0 here chris...

J

Re: how to check hard disk for bad sectors under linux ?

Jerome Henry — Mon, 08 Mar 2004 09:26:01 GMT

Chris,

As /boot is ext2, it shouldn't have this problem, as it should be checked.
you still can use tune2fs to tune checking intervals. But the command applies to each partition, so you have to enter it for each.
Entering it today with the same values will make checking occur the same day, but you can't use /dev/hda with it.

J

Re: how to check hard disk for bad sectors under linux ?

'chris' — Mon, 08 Mar 2004 09:29:43 GMT

thanks for answers !

that means badblocks test is looking for bad sectors also ?

what's different exactly between blocks and sectors ?

Re: how to check hard disk for bad sectors under linux ?

Jerome Henry — Mon, 08 Mar 2004 10:09:31 GMT

The sector is the physical space your HD maker thought was necessary to write 512 bytes (4096 bits, so 4096 different information). It depends on your HD speed, head sensitivity, and so on.
From that, each operating system groups sectors in order to simplify disk administration (if your average file size is 3.5 ko, it would be faster to administrate 4.0 ko as the minimum unit to describe a file, instead of administrating 7 sectors to describe the same file. That's why most OSes group sectors in blocks. It looses some space, as in ths example I loose 0.5 ko for the file, but it goes in this example 8 time faster than administrating each sector).
On doing fdisk /dev/hda, you'll be able to check disk block size :
For example :
[root@localhost etc]# fdisk -l /dev/hda

Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40007761920 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4864 cylinders
Units = cylindres of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

PÃ©riphÃ©rique Amorce DÃ©but Fin Blocs Id SystÃ¨me
/dev/hda1 * 1 382 3068383+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda2 383 1148 6152895 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda3 1149 1786 5124735 c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/hda4 1787 4864 24724035 5 Etendue
/dev/hda5 1787 2296 4096543+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda6 2297 2678 3068383+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda7 2679 2805 1020096 82 Echange Linux
/dev/hda8 2806 2901 771088+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda9 2902 4481 12691318+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda10 4482 4863 3068383+ 83 Linux

The block size is :
Units = cylindres of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes. The block size is units / 1024, here 8132.5, which is odd, I know. Sorry. Most of the time it is 1024 bytes, 2048, 4096 or 81

Re: how to check hard disk for bad sectors under linux ?

'chris' — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:45:07 GMT

thanks !

but is it any difference between
blocks and sectors ?

Re: how to check hard disk for bad sectors under linux ?

Stuart Browne — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 19:12:11 GMT

The first line of Jerome's post stated what a sector is. A block is a file-system (read: logical) representation of how to arrange data on a disk.

There isn't necessarily any direct correlation between a sector and a block. When you start talking RAID array's, this becomes very clear.