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Memory usage on RH Advance Server 2.1/3.0

Samuel Eno — Fri, 02 Apr 2004 19:37:05 GMT

I need help understanding the memory usage information that I'm getting from programs like sar, glance and top on Linux.

I'm running the AS 2.1 e.30+ and AS 3.

On some of the systems sar consistently shows average memory usage of 99%. Is there a tool that will display the right value? A while back I read that this was "a feature and not a bug" and there was a way to derive the value from something like 'free'. Does anyone have the formula for that?

thanks,
Sam.

Re: Memory usage on RH Advance Server 2.1/3.0

Martin P.J. Zinser — Fri, 02 Apr 2004 23:51:02 GMT

Hello Sam,

what is different between "some" of the systems. Are you maybe running a database that is using the "free" memory for caches?

Greetings, Martin

Re: Memory usage on RH Advance Server 2.1/3.0

Stuart Browne — Sat, 03 Apr 2004 01:08:28 GMT

To get a more accurate figure on how much memory is in use by applications, look at the values in "/proc/meminfo".

This will show how much is assigned, unassigned, how much is used as caches and buffers.

Reading the details in tye kernel-documentation in 'proc.txt' (/usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-*/filesystems/proc.txt) will give details as to what the different values mean.

Re: Memory usage on RH Advance Server 2.1/3.0

Stuart Browne — Sat, 03 Apr 2004 01:11:33 GMT

Oops, my apologies, proc.txt doesn't detail what the values mean. I know I've read it somewhere, I just can't remember off the top of my head.

Re: Memory usage on RH Advance Server 2.1/3.0

Vitaly Karasik_1 — Sun, 04 Apr 2004 04:11:56 GMT

what about swap usage?

if you just see "no fee memory" in your linux - it's OK because kernel takes all available RAM for buffers/cache; see

http://home.earthlink.net/~jknapka/linux-mm/vmoutline.html
http://www.skynet.ie/~mel/projects/vm/

for details

Re: Memory usage on RH Advance Server 2.1/3.0

Stuart Browne — Sun, 04 Apr 2004 17:59:07 GMT

vm! That's it!

/usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-*/sysctl/vm.txt

Ha! Thanks for the mind-kick Vitaly!

Re: Memory usage on RH Advance Server 2.1/3.0

Samuel Eno — Mon, 05 Apr 2004 10:16:37 GMT

Guys, I appreciate the responses but I'm still not sure how to find out how much memory is really in use.

Martin: All of the systems (running RH AS) behaves this way.

Here are the values I get from /proc/meminfo, 'free', 'top', 'vmstat':

Used: 6G
free: 25M
Shared: 0
Buffer: 255M
Cached: 5G

And the dual CPU system is completely idle.

Vitaly/Stuart: The VM docs are fine but none of them give me a way to extrapolate how much mem is actually in use from the numbers.

Re: Memory usage on RH Advance Server 2.1/3.0

Stuart Browne — Mon, 05 Apr 2004 18:45:05 GMT

The vm.txt does that.

It says take the used values, subtract the cache and buffers, and you're getting close to the amount actually used by the applications.

Re: Memory usage on RH Advance Server 2.1/3.0

Andy Beal — Tue, 06 Apr 2004 15:08:48 GMT

The answers are correct, it will consume all the memory. One potential problem I've seen with this is an over-active kswapd kernel process, as it keeps trying to manage memory right on the verge of running out. I learned through a very painful few months going back and forth with RedHat and Oracle that in large shared memory environments this isn't a good thing, there's too much memory pressure on the system. you can play with /proc/sys/vm/pagecache and /proc/sys/vm/buffercache to leave a bit more free memory and avoid this phenomenon.

Andy