topic Re: LUN deletion with linux in Operating System - Linux

LUN deletion with linux

Britta Eckhardt — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:43:55 GMT

In general my question deals with: when i delete a disk (LUN) from attached storage the linux systems that they were presented to think they can still see the LUN, although the wwn when we do a scan is different. I was told by one engineer that it is normal and you must reboot the system as the best method to remove the LUN from the OS. Having to reboot all the systems is a problem for us.

What i am trying to find out is if anyone else has seen this issue and knows more about it, if there is a patch relating to this, and if it definitely is a Linux OS issue affecting all Linux OS'. Please give me any information you may have about this.

Re: LUN deletion with linux

Ivan Ferreira — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:48:39 GMT

Sometimes, you can use:

rescan-scsi-bus.sh
hp_rescan

To detect/remove disks from a host. Just be carefull because when you remove a disk from linux, device names can change, for example:

sda
sdb
sdc

If you remove sdb, sdc may be renamed to sdb, and you "could" have problems to mount again the file systems on it.

Re: LUN deletion with linux

Britta Eckhardt — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:58:32 GMT

We tried rescanning and also doing echo 1 > delete on the /dev/sdX/.../device folder. We don't consider the latter option a safe recommendation to give customers, and was already rejected by one as well.

But this is a Linux OS issue for any Linux, correct? Is it considered a known bug as of today?

Re: LUN deletion with linux

Ivan Ferreira — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:11:22 GMT

But this is a Linux OS issue for any Linux, correct? Is it considered a known bug as of today?

Do you mean about the device naming changes? I don't see it as a bug, maybe a limitation. There are ways to make device names persistent, normally used when you access raw devices, and also you can mount the file system by using LABELS instead of device names, so does not matter if the device name changes.

For persistent device names see:

https://www.data.com.py/foro/viewtopic.php?t=130

Re: LUN deletion with linux

Britta Eckhardt — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:12:48 GMT

No i mean that the LUN remains in the OS after deleted from storage.

Re: LUN deletion with linux

Matti_Kurkela — Mon, 02 Apr 2007 05:42:31 GMT

The OS does not get enough information from thae storage to determine whether the vanishing of the LUN is intentional or not.

Unless the sysadmin tells otherwise, the system makes the assumption that the vanished LUN may come back at some later time.

Consider a case when a SAN administrator makes a mistake and unrepresents a wrong LUN: with the current policy, the system can continue work as usual when the SAN admin undoes his/her mistake.

If the OS would automatically delete the LUN and then re-install it as a "new" LUN, the device paths might change. You would need some SAN-manufacturer-specific method to identify the disks. Then some reconfiguration would be needed at some level.