topic Re: Can't run talk daemon in Operating System - Linux

Can't run talk daemon

juno2 — Fri, 13 Jun 2003 05:13:56 GMT

I have newly install the rh9 linux , now I run the "talk" function , then it pop up the messages " -------------[ Error on read from talk daemon: Connection refused ]------------- " , can advise what is wrong in my system ? thx.

Re: Can't run talk daemon

Caesar_3 — Fri, 13 Jun 2003 06:04:42 GMT

Hello!

Check if the talk deamon running in your sys.
ps aux | grep talk
Check the talk configurations.

Caesar

Re: Can't run talk daemon

juno2 — Fri, 13 Jun 2003 06:28:48 GMT

thx reply , the daemon is not start , how to start manually ? thx.

Re: Can't run talk daemon

juno2 — Fri, 13 Jun 2003 07:38:53 GMT

I can't find the talkd on my system , how to start this daemon ? thx

Re: Can't run talk daemon

Balaji N — Fri, 13 Jun 2003 08:37:57 GMT

talkd is generally started using xientd.

chkconfig talk --list

and then

chkconfig talk on

to enable it.

and then try running talk.

-balaji

Re: Can't run talk daemon

juno2 — Fri, 13 Jun 2003 09:39:21 GMT

thx Bal,

when i run chkconfig talk on , then pop up "error reading information on service talk: No such file or directory" , how to solve ? thx

Re: Can't run talk daemon

juno2 — Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:17:32 GMT

but I find the command /usr/bin/talk on my system , what is wrong in my system ? thx.

Re: Can't run talk daemon

Claudio Cilloni — Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:57:33 GMT

/usr/bin/talk is only the client for the 'talk' service. make sure that the talk server is installed:

# rpm -qa | grep talk

this should show a line like 'talk-server-xx.xx'
if it isn't so, you can installed it from redhat cd.

then probably you should enable the talk service
in the file /etc/xinetd.d/talk, changing
the line 'disable = yes' in 'disable = no'.
after this, restart the xinetd demon running:

# service xinetd restart

I hope this is enough to get this service running...

hi
Claudio

Re: Can't run talk daemon

Steven E. Protter — Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:13:23 GMT

This pretty much outdated little chat service will work between users on the Red Hat box who are logged in and have the appropriate environment variables set.

In ten years of Unix Administration, we've never needed to turn it on.

I'm sure its just the daemon configuration.

SEP

Re: Can't run talk daemon

Caesar_3 — Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:48:58 GMT

Hi,

You maybe not installed the package of talk
when you installed your RH.
Check for talk in rpm db:
rpm -qa | grep talk
If not installed install it:
rpm -pi .rpm

Check in the /etc/xinet.d/talk
the configs for the talk
Then it should work.

Caesar

Re: Can't run talk daemon

Caesar_3 — Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:23:34 GMT

Hi again,

If you say that people helping you show
it with giving points for the answers!

Caesar

Re: Can't run talk daemon

Steven E. Protter — Fri, 13 Jun 2003 17:42:09 GMT

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SEP

Re: Can't run talk daemon

juno2 — Mon, 16 Jun 2003 01:31:40 GMT

I check the following :

[root@edp xinetd.d]# rpm -qa | grep talk
talk-0.17-20

the talk is installed.

but no talk file on the dir /etc/xinetd.d/ and no talkd on /usr/sbin, what can i do ? thx

Re: Can't run talk daemon

Steven E. Protter — Mon, 16 Jun 2003 02:09:28 GMT

juno2.

Remove the app with rpm,

Reinstall it from the Linux CD's if its on there.

You can try and download from redhat and install from there, but I've had much better luck with the downloaded cd's I've created with putting something in that didn't install right.

SEP

Re: Can't run talk daemon

juno2 — Mon, 16 Jun 2003 04:28:11 GMT

thx steven ,

but i want to have newer version of program so I prefer to use this program .

but why there is no talkd on my system after install it? thx

Re: Can't run talk daemon

Stuart Browne — Mon, 16 Jun 2003 04:50:55 GMT

Claudio was right on the money.

Yes, you have the 'talk client' installed, but not the 'talk server'.

If you 'rpm -q talk-server', you should see something along the lines of 'talk-server-0.17-20'.

If you do not, then you'll need to grab your RH9 CD's (or download the current eratta version of it - I don't beleive there is one however), and install the "Server Package" first ('rpm -ivh talk-server-*.rpm' would be the command).

Once you've installed the package, you need to enable it with the simple command:

chkconfig talk on

After that, assuming your firewall isn't blocking UDP 517 (or 518) to/from your loop-back interface (localhost), you should be able to 'talk ' freely.

I do have to agree with SEP though in that after many (MANY!) years of system administration, better methods exist for talking to other TTY's (the major one being the telephone).

Re: Can't run talk daemon

juno2 — Mon, 16 Jun 2003 05:14:01 GMT

thx much r suggestion , it is ok to install the talk server , sorry to my ignorance , how to restart the service ? thx

Re: Can't run talk daemon

juno2 — Mon, 16 Jun 2003 05:21:10 GMT

i tried to start the service , but pop the below message ,

[root@edp sbin]# /usr/sbin/in.ntalkd start
Socket operation on non-socket[root@edp sbin]#

can suggest how to fix ? thx.

Re: Can't run talk daemon

juno2 — Mon, 16 Jun 2003 05:27:35 GMT

hi all ,

the talk service is on now

[root@edp root]# chkconfig talk --list
talk on

Re: Can't run talk daemon

juno2 — Mon, 16 Jun 2003 05:32:30 GMT

i tried run /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart , but still can't run talk , can suggest ? thx