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    <title>topic new bind 9.9 and root NS take 2 in Operating System - Linux</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/new-bind-9-9-and-root-ns-take-2/m-p/5750435#M81481</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A short summary of the previous post: I have a client who's migrating from two old DNS physical servers to two new virtual ones running bind 9.9. &amp;nbsp;I did their migration and, long story short, we're having problems getting the two new systems to talk to the root name servers. &amp;nbsp;My two initial theories (new NS has to be registered to talk to root NS and issue w/DNSSEC) both proved to be incorrect which leaves something on the network.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The core problem is that we cannot reach the root name servers via udp. &amp;nbsp;We *can*, however, reach google's name servers via udp. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;We can also reach the root name servers via tcp...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;# dig +novc @f.root-servers.net&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;; &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; DiG 9.9.1-P1-RedHat-9.9.1-2.P1.fc17 &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; +novc @f.root-servers.net&lt;BR /&gt;; (1 server found)&lt;BR /&gt;;; global options: +cmd&lt;BR /&gt;;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;# dig +noanswer +noquestion +novc @8.8.8.8&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;; &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; DiG 9.9.1-P1-RedHat-9.9.1-2.P1.fc17 &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; +noanswer +noquestion +novc @8.8.8.8&lt;BR /&gt;; (1 server found)&lt;BR /&gt;;; global options: +cmd&lt;BR /&gt;;; Got answer:&lt;BR /&gt;;; -&amp;gt;&amp;gt;HEADER&amp;lt;&amp;lt;- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 11665&lt;BR /&gt;;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 13, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:&lt;BR /&gt;; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512&lt;BR /&gt;;; Query time: 13 msec&lt;BR /&gt;;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)&lt;BR /&gt;;; WHEN: Thu Aug 2 08:52:09 2012&lt;BR /&gt;;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 239&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;# dig +noanswer +noadditional +noquestion +vc @f.root-servers.net&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;; &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; DiG 9.9.1-P1-RedHat-9.9.1-2.P1.fc17 &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; +noanswer +noadditional +noquestion +vc @f.root-servers.net&lt;BR /&gt;; (1 server found)&lt;BR /&gt;;; global options: +cmd&lt;BR /&gt;;; Got answer:&lt;BR /&gt;;; -&amp;gt;&amp;gt;HEADER&amp;lt;&amp;lt;- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 60360&lt;BR /&gt;;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 13, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 23&lt;BR /&gt;;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:&lt;BR /&gt;; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096&lt;BR /&gt;;; Query time: 77 msec&lt;BR /&gt;;; SERVER: 192.5.5.241#53(192.5.5.241)&lt;BR /&gt;;; WHEN: Thu Aug 2 08:55:19 2012&lt;BR /&gt;;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 699&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So, short version: the new dns systems can send outbound udp packets; but, something is blocking those packets going to the root name servers. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Has anyone seen anything like this and/or know what might be causing it? &amp;nbsp;Failing that, does anyone know of a way to force recursions to use tcp vs udp?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This one's just plain weird... appreciate any hints/tips/suggestions.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Doug O'Leary&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:59:52 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Doug O'Leary</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-08-02T13:59:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>new bind 9.9 and root NS take 2</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/new-bind-9-9-and-root-ns-take-2/m-p/5750435#M81481</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A short summary of the previous post: I have a client who's migrating from two old DNS physical servers to two new virtual ones running bind 9.9. &amp;nbsp;I did their migration and, long story short, we're having problems getting the two new systems to talk to the root name servers. &amp;nbsp;My two initial theories (new NS has to be registered to talk to root NS and issue w/DNSSEC) both proved to be incorrect which leaves something on the network.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The core problem is that we cannot reach the root name servers via udp. &amp;nbsp;We *can*, however, reach google's name servers via udp. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;We can also reach the root name servers via tcp...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;# dig +novc @f.root-servers.net&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;; &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; DiG 9.9.1-P1-RedHat-9.9.1-2.P1.fc17 &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; +novc @f.root-servers.net&lt;BR /&gt;; (1 server found)&lt;BR /&gt;;; global options: +cmd&lt;BR /&gt;;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;# dig +noanswer +noquestion +novc @8.8.8.8&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;; &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; DiG 9.9.1-P1-RedHat-9.9.1-2.P1.fc17 &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; +noanswer +noquestion +novc @8.8.8.8&lt;BR /&gt;; (1 server found)&lt;BR /&gt;;; global options: +cmd&lt;BR /&gt;;; Got answer:&lt;BR /&gt;;; -&amp;gt;&amp;gt;HEADER&amp;lt;&amp;lt;- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 11665&lt;BR /&gt;;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 13, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:&lt;BR /&gt;; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512&lt;BR /&gt;;; Query time: 13 msec&lt;BR /&gt;;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)&lt;BR /&gt;;; WHEN: Thu Aug 2 08:52:09 2012&lt;BR /&gt;;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 239&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;# dig +noanswer +noadditional +noquestion +vc @f.root-servers.net&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;; &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; DiG 9.9.1-P1-RedHat-9.9.1-2.P1.fc17 &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; +noanswer +noadditional +noquestion +vc @f.root-servers.net&lt;BR /&gt;; (1 server found)&lt;BR /&gt;;; global options: +cmd&lt;BR /&gt;;; Got answer:&lt;BR /&gt;;; -&amp;gt;&amp;gt;HEADER&amp;lt;&amp;lt;- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 60360&lt;BR /&gt;;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 13, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 23&lt;BR /&gt;;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:&lt;BR /&gt;; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096&lt;BR /&gt;;; Query time: 77 msec&lt;BR /&gt;;; SERVER: 192.5.5.241#53(192.5.5.241)&lt;BR /&gt;;; WHEN: Thu Aug 2 08:55:19 2012&lt;BR /&gt;;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 699&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So, short version: the new dns systems can send outbound udp packets; but, something is blocking those packets going to the root name servers. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Has anyone seen anything like this and/or know what might be causing it? &amp;nbsp;Failing that, does anyone know of a way to force recursions to use tcp vs udp?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This one's just plain weird... appreciate any hints/tips/suggestions.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Doug O'Leary&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:59:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/new-bind-9-9-and-root-ns-take-2/m-p/5750435#M81481</guid>
      <dc:creator>Doug O'Leary</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-08-02T13:59:52Z</dc:date>
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