topic Re: j2sdk ? in Operating System - Linux

j2sdk ?

Kyle D. Harris — Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:22:56 GMT

A pre-installment requirement is to install the latest j2sdk from java.sun.com ...

I went to the site and under popular downloads it has
J2EE 1.4 SDK and also J2SE 1.4.2 SDK ...

What is the difference with them and which is the best route? Thanks again all...

Kyle

Re: j2sdk ?

Mark Grant — Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:25:52 GMT

Personally I have no idea, I might guess at Enterprise Edition or Server Edition but am probably completely wrong. However, installing J2SE works for me.

Re: j2sdk ?

Kyle D. Harris — Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:27:25 GMT

Mark, i just caught it.. it's Enterprise Edition and Standard Edition...

Is that Standard Edition you have that works fine compatable with RH 9.0?

Re: j2sdk ?

Kyle D. Harris — Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:31:35 GMT

Also-
If given the choice what is better between choosing to download a binary self-extracting file or a RPM version of the file.. Whats the difference and what do most people prefer?

Re: j2sdk ?

Mark Grant — Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:33:02 GMT

Yes, I'm pretty sure it will. It is a binary you are getting and I'm fairly certain it's statically linked which means it's independent of all the Red Hat annoyances.

However, I think if you dig around on the site a bit more, you'll get a dynamically linked one specifically for Red Hat. This would be a better choice for you.

Re: j2sdk ?

Mark Grant — Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:39:46 GMT

Your second question is a problem :)

Personally, I wouldn't use RPM's at all but that's not to say I would suggest everybody do the same.

An RPM for the system you are running is probably the best approach to get things running quickly and simply and is probably what the majority of people do.

For me, finding out where RPM puts everything is so irritating that I'd rather get the vanilla package and build it myself and install it where I know where it is. Also, that way, I know I get the package as the project recommends, not one with updates and patches by Red Hat that might be incompatable with other versions.

Re: j2sdk ?

Kyle D. Harris — Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:42:06 GMT

Mark, good point. You being more advanced then myself can build it yourself. For a inexperienced moron like myself, it may be better to go with the RPM. Appreciate it.

Re: j2sdk ?

Mark Grant — Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:47:45 GMT

I personally wouldn't refer to you as a moron Kyle.

Still do some pretty moronic things myself from time to time though.

Re: j2sdk ?

Kyle D. Harris — Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:49:56 GMT

lol mark. I bet you haven't brought down an entire application used by Generals and Colonels in the Marine Corps! I think i have you beat on the moronic things! hehe...

Re: j2sdk ?

Kyle D. Harris — Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:57:16 GMT

Does j2sdk and j2se do the same thing?

Re: j2sdk ?

Mark Grant — Wed, 07 Jan 2004 10:05:40 GMT

Kyle,

The sdk is the full, everything you need to develop and run java apps, I think the se just allows running java apps.

I brought all a multinational company's systems down with my knee once (swivelling around on a chair and hit the disk sub-systems power off button). Everybody thought that was pretty moronic at the time.

Re: j2sdk ?

Kyle D. Harris — Wed, 07 Jan 2004 10:08:19 GMT

LOL i had to share that one with another Marine. Thats pretty funny. Oh well, crap happens. Least we can look back and laugh ...

Re: j2sdk ?

Olivier Drouin — Wed, 07 Jan 2004 10:11:37 GMT

j2se and j2ee are different things.

j2se is the base java software. you can download 2 different things.

j2se jdk -> the barebone version
j2se sdk -> the full version

J2EE is j2 enterprise edition ( hence j2EE ).
It contains enterprise java beans, framework stuff I think. Im not very familiar with that one but you shouldnt need it if you dont know exactly what you are doing.

So, J2se 1.4.2 SDK ( I think it is the latest release right now ) is your best bet.

Re: j2sdk ?

Kyle D. Harris — Wed, 07 Jan 2004 10:14:42 GMT

Mark I had to give you 10 points on that Story. That story is a classic and deserves a bonus.

Re: j2sdk ?

Joao Mendes — Fri, 09 Jan 2004 03:56:52 GMT

J2SE sdk is to develop/run simple java aplications, applets, etc.
J2EE sdk is to develop/run java web services, it includes SUNWappServer that is a J2EE web server based on Tomcat, is permits runnig servlets, jsp.
To install J2EE you need first install J2SE, as base Java plataform!

Joao Mendes