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    <title>topic perl 64bit compile on Itanium in Operating System - Linux</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018305#M93490</link>
    <description>I'm having major issues trying to compile perl5.8.8 64Bit on one of my Itanium servers. The compiler that i'm using is the gcc4.1.2 one and I'm using the following syntax:-&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;sh Configure -de -Dprefix=/opt/perl588 -Dcc=gcc -Duse64bitall&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;It runs for about 1 min and crashes with the following error:-&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;/bin/sh: 9294 Killed&lt;BR /&gt;The program compiled OK, but exited with status 137.&lt;BR /&gt;(The supplied flags or libraries might be incorrect.)&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Can someone point me in the right direction here?&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:25:16 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Nyck_1</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-06-12T07:25:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>perl 64bit compile on Itanium</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018305#M93490</link>
      <description>I'm having major issues trying to compile perl5.8.8 64Bit on one of my Itanium servers. The compiler that i'm using is the gcc4.1.2 one and I'm using the following syntax:-&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;sh Configure -de -Dprefix=/opt/perl588 -Dcc=gcc -Duse64bitall&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;It runs for about 1 min and crashes with the following error:-&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;/bin/sh: 9294 Killed&lt;BR /&gt;The program compiled OK, but exited with status 137.&lt;BR /&gt;(The supplied flags or libraries might be incorrect.)&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Can someone point me in the right direction here?&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:25:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018305#M93490</guid>
      <dc:creator>Nyck_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-12T07:25:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: perl 64bit compile on Itanium</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018306#M93491</link>
      <description>Do you have a very specific need to build it yourself?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Why not get my build?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/downloads.html#hpux1123" target="_blank"&gt;http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/downloads.html#hpux1123&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:40:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018306#M93491</guid>
      <dc:creator>H.Merijn Brand (procura</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-12T07:40:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: perl 64bit compile on Itanium</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018307#M93492</link>
      <description>This is required for use with the following:-&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;DBI.pm&lt;BR /&gt;DBD::Oracle.pm&lt;BR /&gt;BerkeleyDB.pm&lt;BR /&gt;BerkeleyDB C&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Originally I set my perl path to use /opt/perl_64 and then compiled the above. But we are having serious issues with the BerkeleyDB perl module, hence the starting from scratch.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Also it would be really nice to know how to compile perl in 64 bit!</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:01:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018307#M93492</guid>
      <dc:creator>Nyck_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-12T08:01:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: perl 64bit compile on Itanium</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018308#M93493</link>
      <description>My depot already includes DBI-1.53, and is compiled with gcc-4.1.1, and has in-house been tested against Oracle-9.2/64&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I still see no reason not to use my depot, but keep being interested in why your build wouldn't succeed.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;What's the gcc version you use? On Itanium2, I am now on 4.1.2.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:23:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018308#M93493</guid>
      <dc:creator>H.Merijn Brand (procura</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-12T08:23:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: perl 64bit compile on Itanium</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018309#M93494</link>
      <description>The main reason for building this from scratch is because we are doing this for a customer and need to show them how to do this.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I have tried this with gcc3.4.5 &amp;amp; gcc4.1.2 and for both versions its failing with this error message:-&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;/bin/sh: 23930 Killed&lt;BR /&gt;The program compiled OK, but exited with status 137.&lt;BR /&gt;(The supplied flags or libraries might be incorrect.)&lt;BR /&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;You have a problem.  Shall I abort Configure [y]  &lt;BR /&gt;Ok.  Stopping Configure.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I have also tried the ansic compiler and not had much luck with that either!</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 09:55:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018309#M93494</guid>
      <dc:creator>Nyck_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-12T09:55:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: perl 64bit compile on Itanium</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018310#M93495</link>
      <description>What compiler would you prefer?&lt;BR /&gt;I can send you my config.sh for that compiler, and you can check what you have done different.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Please also&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;# script /tmp/p588.log&lt;BR /&gt;# make distclean&lt;BR /&gt;# rm -rf UU Policy.sh config.sh&lt;BR /&gt;# ./Configure -Duse64bitall -de -Dprefix=/opt/perl588 -A prepend:libswanted='cl pthread '&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;# exit&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;and make /tmp/p588.log available to me though ftp or so.&lt;BR /&gt;read README.hpux for more info about that -A flag, and do not forget the trailing space!&lt;BR /&gt;If you do not include the -A stuff, Oracle won't work&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:02:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018310#M93495</guid>
      <dc:creator>H.Merijn Brand (procura</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-12T10:02:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: perl 64bit compile on Itanium</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018311#M93496</link>
      <description>I'm looking to use the gcc compiler, any particular version you would recommend?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I'm going home now and will start afresh with this tomorrow morning.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Cheers for all the help!</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:07:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018311#M93496</guid>
      <dc:creator>Nyck_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-12T10:07:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: perl 64bit compile on Itanium</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018312#M93497</link>
      <description>4.1.2 works fine. if you have it, use it.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;personally I prefer HP C-ANSI-C builds, but that makes adding XS later more difficult on sites that have no C-ANSI-C&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:09:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018312#M93497</guid>
      <dc:creator>H.Merijn Brand (procura</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-12T10:09:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: perl 64bit compile on Integrity</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018313#M93498</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;gt;H.Merijn: personally I prefer HP C-ANSI-C builds,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;My hero!&lt;BR /&gt;Do you notice any big performance differences? Especially on IPF?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 03:49:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018313#M93498</guid>
      <dc:creator>Dennis Handly</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-09-26T03:49:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: perl 64bit compile on Itanium</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018314#M93499</link>
      <description>To be honoust, I didn't really try that yet, but I can give you an estimate:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;a perl smoke with cc takes 7.5 hour, and with a rude calc method from the logs, I get&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;cc: 0.0029682879 CPU-sec/test&lt;BR /&gt;gcc:0.0030228416 CPU-sec/test&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;so cc still is faster :)&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:45:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018314#M93499</guid>
      <dc:creator>H.Merijn Brand (procura</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-12T11:45:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: perl 64bit compile on Itanium</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018315#M93500</link>
      <description>I have tried with what you have suggested and its still crashing out with this wonderful error code137. The syntax I used is as follows:-&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;./Configure -Duse64bitall -de -Dprefix=/opt/perl588 -Dcc=gcc -A prepend:libswanted='cl pthread '&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I have tried this with gcc3.4.5 &amp;amp; gcc4.1.2&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If I delete the Policy &amp;amp; config file it just fails!</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 02:46:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018315#M93500</guid>
      <dc:creator>Nyck_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-13T02:46:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: perl 64bit compile on Itanium</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018316#M93501</link>
      <description>Those two deletes are just that - if I can see the log - the state was reasonably sane to start with.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Both 3.4.5 and 4.1.2 should be ok.&lt;BR /&gt;Can you make the log available to me? I'd like to have a look.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 03:19:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018316#M93501</guid>
      <dc:creator>H.Merijn Brand (procura</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-13T03:19:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: perl 64bit compile on Itanium</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018317#M93502</link>
      <description>We do not have an external ftp server at our end, is there a way i can ftp this to you?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;if not i can cut and paste it into word and maybe email it?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 03:27:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018317#M93502</guid>
      <dc:creator>Nyck_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-13T03:27:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: perl 64bit compile on Itanium</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018318#M93503</link>
      <description>drop me a note at merijn at procura dot nl and I'll provide you with a write-only ftp on our side&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Enjoy, Have FUN !H.Merijn</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 03:51:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018318#M93503</guid>
      <dc:creator>H.Merijn Brand (procura</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-13T03:51:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: perl 64bit compile on Itanium</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018319#M93504</link>
      <description>did my email get through to you?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 05:33:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018319#M93504</guid>
      <dc:creator>Nyck_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-13T05:33:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: perl 64bit compile on Itanium</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018320#M93505</link>
      <description>Yes, all clear. Your libdb.so is not what it should be or should have been.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Detailed info sent by mail&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:41:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018320#M93505</guid>
      <dc:creator>H.Merijn Brand (procura</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-13T08:41:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: perl 64bit compile on Itanium</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018321#M93506</link>
      <description>the ./Configure works fine, but when I run make it crashes with the following:-&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;make&lt;BR /&gt;`sh  cflags "optimize='-g -O'" miniperlmain.o`  miniperlmain.c&lt;BR /&gt;          CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -D_HPUX_SOURCE -mlp64 -DDEBUGGING -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wdeclaration-after-statement -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -g -O  -Wall&lt;BR /&gt;In file included from perl.h:4485,&lt;BR /&gt;                 from miniperlmain.c:36:&lt;BR /&gt;/usr/include/sys/ipc.h:51: error: parse error before "cid_t"&lt;BR /&gt;/usr/include/sys/ipc.h:56: error: parse error before '}' token&lt;BR /&gt;In file included from perl.h:4486,&lt;BR /&gt;                 from miniperlmain.c:36:&lt;BR /&gt;/usr/include/sys/sem.h:91: error: field `sem_perm' has incomplete type&lt;BR /&gt;make: *** [miniperlmain.o] Error 1&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:23:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018321#M93506</guid>
      <dc:creator>Nyck_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-13T09:23:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: perl 64bit compile on Itanium</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018322#M93507</link>
      <description>That is a problem you get when you install a gcc from a source that didn't build gcc on *exactly* the same system.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I'm sure you won't get this when you build with C-ANSI-C or when you rebuild gcc from source using the gcc you have.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://h21007.www2.hp.com/portal/site/dspp/menuitem.a71dd5247f6a9513ebc5545704b4e601/?javax.portlet.tpst=31583f33917665b2a95994108973a801_ws_MX&amp;amp;javax.portlet.prp_31583f33917665b2a95994108973a801_viewID=proxy_view_secondary&amp;amp;javax.portlet.prp_31583f33917665b2a95994108973a801_wcproxyurl=http%253A%252F%252Fh21007.www2.hp.com%252Fportal%252Fdownload%252Fmailinglist_archives%252Fcxx-dev%252Fcxx-dev.0502%252F0052.html&amp;amp;javax.portlet.begCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken&amp;amp;javax.portlet.endCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken" target="_blank"&gt;http://h21007.www2.hp.com/portal/site/dspp/menuitem.a71dd5247f6a9513ebc5545704b4e601/?javax.portlet.tpst=31583f33917665b2a95994108973a801_ws_MX&amp;amp;javax.portlet.prp_31583f33917665b2a95994108973a801_viewID=proxy_view_secondary&amp;amp;javax.portlet.prp_31583f33917665b2a95994108973a801_wcproxyurl=http%253A%252F%252Fh21007.www2.hp.com%252Fportal%252Fdownload%252Fmailinglist_archives%252Fcxx-dev%252Fcxx-dev.0502%252F0052.html&amp;amp;javax.portlet.begCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken&amp;amp;javax.portlet.endCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;HTH, Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:22:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018322#M93507</guid>
      <dc:creator>H.Merijn Brand (procura</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-13T11:22:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: perl 64bit compile on Itanium</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018323#M93508</link>
      <description>I will try it again with the ansic c compiler!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks again for all your help on this wonderful issue:-)</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 02:24:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018323#M93508</guid>
      <dc:creator>Nyck_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-14T02:24:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: perl 64bit compile on Itanium</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018324#M93509</link>
      <description>I have been able to compile perl588 in 64bit mode on one of our Itanium servers, then i did the DBI perl module ok. I was about to then do DBD::ORACLE.pm only to discover that oracle was not installed on this particular server. So i went back to the original server and removed that link, then i was able to run the ./Configure with no issues what so ever but when i ran make it crashed with the following:-&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;        `sh  cflags "optimize='+O1'" pp_sys.o`  pp_sys.c&lt;BR /&gt;          CCCMD =  cc -DPERL_CORE -c  -Ae -D_HPUX_SOURCE -Wl,+vnocompatwarnings +DD64 -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64  +O1 &lt;BR /&gt;"/usr/include/rpc/rpcsec_gss.h", line 166: error #2070: incomplete type is not&lt;BR /&gt;          allowed&lt;BR /&gt;        rpc_gss_OID_desc        mechanism;&lt;BR /&gt;                                ^&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;1 error detected in the compilation of "pp_sys.c".&lt;BR /&gt;*** Error exit code 2&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I have checked and both servers are running the same ansic compiler, any ideas?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 07:24:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-linux/perl-64bit-compile-on-itanium/m-p/4018324#M93509</guid>
      <dc:creator>Nyck_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-14T07:24:51Z</dc:date>
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