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    <title>topic EVA snapshot snapclone usage in Disk Enclosures</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/disk-enclosures/eva-snapshot-snapclone-usage/m-p/4060025#M24719</link>
    <description>I guess I'm having trouble visualizing the way these are used.  I understand that it's a copy of a given lun in time...but can someone give some real life examples of how they're using these with Oracle DB's.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;For example, you make your snapclone...do you make it while the db is running, or do you stop the db, make a snapclone and restart the db?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;What are you doing in conjunction with tape backups and snapclones...?  Anything?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Do you present your snapclones to hosts and do things with them, if so what?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Sorry for the not so intelligent questions.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;c</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:32:50 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Charles McCary</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-08-24T10:32:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>EVA snapshot snapclone usage</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/disk-enclosures/eva-snapshot-snapclone-usage/m-p/4060025#M24719</link>
      <description>I guess I'm having trouble visualizing the way these are used.  I understand that it's a copy of a given lun in time...but can someone give some real life examples of how they're using these with Oracle DB's.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;For example, you make your snapclone...do you make it while the db is running, or do you stop the db, make a snapclone and restart the db?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;What are you doing in conjunction with tape backups and snapclones...?  Anything?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Do you present your snapclones to hosts and do things with them, if so what?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Sorry for the not so intelligent questions.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;c</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:32:50 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Charles McCary</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-08-24T10:32:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: EVA snapshot snapclone usage</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/disk-enclosures/eva-snapshot-snapclone-usage/m-p/4060026#M24720</link>
      <description>&lt;BR /&gt;Hi Charles,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Take a look at this documents. This will definitely help you.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Cloning an Oracle/DB2/Sybase Database in a SAN Environment Using EVA Snapclone Technology&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01126538/c01126538.pdf?jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN" target="_blank"&gt;http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01126538/c01126538.pdf?jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;WK&lt;BR /&gt;Please assign points&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:08:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/disk-enclosures/eva-snapshot-snapclone-usage/m-p/4060026#M24720</guid>
      <dc:creator>whiteknight</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-08-24T12:08:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: EVA snapshot snapclone usage</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/disk-enclosures/eva-snapshot-snapclone-usage/m-p/4060027#M24721</link>
      <description>&lt;BR /&gt;There are basically two approaches and each have advantages and disadvantages.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;1) Shutdown the DB. Snapshot. Restart Database. -- Cold Backup&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;2) Put Database in Backup Mode. Snapshot. Take Database out of Backup Mode. -- Hot Backup&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;In both cases, you backup the snapshots. Whenever possible, I actually prefer method 1) because you have all the warm fuzzy safety of a cold backup with almost all of the uptime of a hot backup. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;There is also a case where method 2) doesn't help you all that much. Consider the case of application servers and database servers where the application servers store meta-data that describe actual database data. Unless the two are in sync, a hot backup no matter how well it can restore the database will be useless. The only way that really works is to down the applications; down the database; snapshort the applications and database; restart the database; and finally restart the applications. You then can take your cold backups using the snapshots while the users continue to work.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:22:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/disk-enclosures/eva-snapshot-snapclone-usage/m-p/4060027#M24721</guid>
      <dc:creator>A. Clay Stephenson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-08-24T12:22:26Z</dc:date>
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