topic Re: Knowing Controllers Version and some others info in Disk Enclosures

Knowing Controllers Version and some others info

ReynierPM — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 01:38:56 GMT

Is there any way to know the model of my EVA controllers via software or some command?

Re: Knowing Controllers Version and some others info

Víctor Cespón — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:23:57 GMT

Look in Command View

Hardware - Rack 1 - Controller enclosure

Select one controller and you'll see what model it is and what firmware version it has.

Re: Knowing Controllers Version and some others info

ReynierPM — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 14:26:29 GMT

Ok, I get this information from Controllers as you suggested before:

Controller A & B - HSV200
Software Version A & B - CR0EB0XC3P-6100

So I think my EVA is 6100 and not a 6400. What I need, then, to upgrade to 8100 or 84400?

Cheers and thanks in advance

Re: Knowing Controllers Version and some others info

Víctor Cespón — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 14:51:32 GMT

6100 is the firmware version. Latest for that family of EVAs is 6220.

The controller is an HSV200 which is used on EVA4000 and EVA6000. If it has two loop-switches it's an EVA6000 and can have up to 8 disk enclosures (112 disks). If it does not have loop-switches, it's an EVA4000 and can have up to 4 disk enclosures (56 disks).

An EVA8000 can have up to 18 enclosures (and 240 disks)

You can upgrade to an EVA8000 / EVA8100 by:

- Purchasing two new HSV210 controllers
- Purchasing additional loop switches
- Replacing the I/O modules in the enclosures if upgrading to EVA8100.

Re: Knowing Controllers Version and some others info

Uwe Zessin — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:11:16 GMT

I think there are more possible models:
> HSV200

EVA4000/4100 (1..4 disk enclosures) or EVA6000/6100 (1..8 disk enclosures + loop switches).

As far as I can tell, one must decode the controller serial numbers to find out if the system uses HSV200 (2Gig) or HSV200-A (4Gig) or HSV200-B (4Gig / 4100/6100) controller modules.

Re: Knowing Controllers Version and some others info

ReynierPM — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:35:53 GMT

The EVA now achieve 177 TB and 6 Enclosures (5 for Disks and 1 for Controllers) so thinking in Total Storage 4000 can't support this storage wich may me think that my EVA is a 6000 or greater.

What loop-switches means? A equipment installed on Rack? A software? Something else? (Sorry about this stupid questions but I'm learning now with yours help ;) )

So I need to upgrade every of this options:
- Purchasing two new HSV210 controllers
- Purchasing additional loop switches
- Replacing the I/O modules in the enclosures if upgrading to EVA8100.

Or just one of them or two?
Thanks again

Re: Knowing Controllers Version and some others info

Uwe Zessin — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:41:13 GMT

EVA loop switches a cabled between the HSV controllers and the disk drive enclosures. On the EVA-6000/6100 they usually mounted directly above the controllers and occupy 1U rack height.

Re: Knowing Controllers Version and some others info

Mark... — Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:35:10 GMT

Hi
HSV200 = NOT RoHS compliant
HSV200-A = RoHS compliant
This can be checked from the OCP via a menu option.
Not exactly a guarantee but if it has Model 352 switches then it is a HSV200 or 200-A.
If it has 852 switches then it could be an A spec but B spec MUST have them.
Mark...

Re: Knowing Controllers Version and some others info

ReynierPM — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:13:03 GMT

Hi I'm completely lost because you talk here about a lot of things that I don't know :( (sorry for my ignorance in this topics but I'm newbie and try to learn with yours help).

Ok, the EVA now is 2C6D wich make me think it's a 6100. So if I want to add two more enclosures to get 2C8D or maybe better get 2C12D what I'm need to do? Purchasing six new HSV210 controllers? Purchasing additional loop switches? Replacing the I/O modules in the enclosures if upgrading to EVA8100? All of them?

Cheers

Re: Knowing Controllers Version and some others info

Víctor Cespón — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:49:37 GMT

Your EVA has firmware 6.100, HSV200 controllers and 6 enclosures.

It's an EVA6000. The 4100/6100/8100 came with firmare 6.110 minimum.

You can add two more disk enclosures.

If you want more, you need two loop-switches more and replace the controllers by HSV210 (so it becames a EVA8000).

Be aware that EVA4100/6100/8100 use controllers and enclosures that are not compatible with older EVAs. You need to have all controllers, switches, I/O modules and EMUs from the same generation, do not mix old and new parts.

Re: Knowing Controllers Version and some others info

ReynierPM — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:10:43 GMT

Thanks a lot for those replies, this help me a lot and also for understand ( more or less ) how EVA works and how to make a upgrade.

Re: Knowing Controllers Version and some others info

ReynierPM — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 01:40:00 GMT

Hi it's me again:
This question goes to vcespon but if any can help me welcome then. I asked before what I need to do in order to upgrade to a EVA8000 (older is a EVA6000). You say me this 3 choices:
- Purchasing two new HSV210 controllers
- Purchasing additional loop switches
- Replacing the I/O modules in the enclosures if upgrading to EVA8100.

I ask you now: I need to execute the 3 tasks in order to upgrade the EVA? Or just upgrading to HSV210 controllers? Or just purchasing additional loop switches? Or just replacing the I/O modules in the enclosures if upgrading to EVA8100?

Anyway where I can find information on the elements that need to be upgraded or should I buy?

Re: Knowing Controllers Version and some others info

ReynierPM — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 01:49:52 GMT

Ok, I found this PDF (converted to a image) http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1516/evaupgradedmatrix.jpg but not see there how I can upgrade from 6000 to 8000, just from 6000 to 8100. Any tips?

Re: Knowing Controllers Version and some others info

Uwe Zessin — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:55:03 GMT

According to the slide it is an official presentation from 2009. The EVA-8000 was no longer sold at that time, so you can no longer do it via the normal sales channel.

Re: Knowing Controllers Version and some others info

Víctor Cespón — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:21:39 GMT

To upgrade to an EVA8100 you need:

Two HSV210-B controllers (390855-006)
Four 852 loop-switches (408514-001)
Enclosures M5134C which means:
- I/O modules 364549-009 and 364548-009
- EMUs 375393-001 or 375393-005

Re: Knowing Controllers Version and some others info

ReynierPM — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 23:24:24 GMT

Hi:
Where you find this information? I'm trying to find these components (by part number) and I didn't found nothing. :(

Re: Knowing Controllers Version and some others info

Uwe Zessin — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 10:01:16 GMT

I think (s)he works for HP and has acccess to a lot more information than mere mortals ;-)

If it isn't obvious:
>Enclosures M5134C which means:
>- I/O modules 364549-009 and 364548-009

This is a logical AND - there is an A + B I/O module in an enclosure. They are physically different - can't replace A with B or B with A.

>- EMUs 375393-001 or 375393-005

A disk drive enclosure has one EMU, so you can use any one of the models per enclosure.

Re: Knowing Controllers Version and some others info

ReynierPM — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 01:47:29 GMT

Hi again:
I have clearly what I need to buy but have some doubts yet.

1) By buying a new HSV210 controller means replace the old HSV200 (put into trash) or just upgrade XCS software in the old HSV200?

2) I/O Modules and EMUs means something like a target or some hardware need to be attached to enclosure or come prebuild when I buy a new enclosure M5134C?

3) I don't need to buy any FC kit cable or something else?

Cheers

Re: Knowing Controllers Version and some others info

Uwe Zessin — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 07:37:04 GMT

1) The HSV210 controller modules are completely different hardware than the HSV200 and they run a slightly different firmware.

2) I/O Modules and EMUs
If you want to upgrade to an M5134C, you need to pull the old EMU module and the A+B I/O module and stick in the new ones.

If you buy a new M5134C it is supplied with the correct modules in the factory.

3) The HSV200 and the HSV210 use both LC connectors, but the HSV210 controller module has twice the amount of host ports (8 total), so you want 4 additional cables.

And do not forget that an EVA-8100 requires:
> Four 852 loop-switches (408514-001)

Re: Knowing Controllers Version and some others info

ReynierPM — Fri, 23 Apr 2010 02:27:13 GMT

Hi:
Could anyone help me to build a buy order? I need to tell what I need to buy and what services our DC need from HP training people in order to upgrade the EVA to 8100. For now I was thinking to get another Racks 1000 g2 series for new enclosures, 11 enclosures but what else? I mean something like:
(1) rack (and if is possible part number)
(11) M5134C enclosures
(x) 300 GB 10k FC disks
(x) FC cables (wich one)
(x) 852 loop-switches (408514-001)

Thanks in advance