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    <title>topic Re: is energy a real problem? in General</title>
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    <description>Hi Uwe,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks so much for your reply.&lt;BR /&gt;I do remember our discussion about saving disk energy by spinning down disks in July,2004 on this forum.  &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;On single disk environments,like PC or laptop, a common disk energy saving policy is to spin down disk to standby state after a no-request period. The disk will be spun up when a request arriving. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If we can generate such a long idle period for some(maybe not all)server disks with affordable performance degradation, do you think it's an acceptable idea to save disk energy for storage systems?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Dong</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 20:59:33 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Dong Li</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2005-05-18T20:59:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>is energy a real problem?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/general/is-energy-a-real-problem/m-p/3546648#M2668</link>
      <description>Dear all,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Recently there are lots of people talk about energy saving (especially for disks) in large data center and doing trade-off between system performance and energy saving.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I am wondering whether enrgy consumption is really a big problem in data center and other large storage systems, or people just need a topic to write papers.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If it is a problem, what are the common requirements? for example "maxize the energy saving but the performance degradation should be less than 5%"&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks a lot and have a good night&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Dong</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2005 21:19:50 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Dong Li</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-17T21:19:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: is energy a real problem?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/general/is-energy-a-real-problem/m-p/3546649#M2669</link>
      <description>The problem is that the electrical energy that is fed into the data center costs money and a lot of electrical energy is converted into heat which needs to be removed from the data center again. For that you need additional equipment which, again costs money, so its a good idea to try and save the electrical energy in the first place.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I have heard about attempts to make servers less energy hungry. For example, by turning off parts or a whole CPU when it is not needed, but I have never heard about any such attempts in the storage space. You can try to build a disk drive with less mass, so you can feed it with less energy to keep the moving parts rotating, for example, but I have never heard about strategies to degrade performance to save energy. Do you have some pointers?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;We have discussed this in the past and I like to repeat that I don't think it is a good idea to spin down a high performance disk drive multiple times.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 00:29:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Uwe Zessin</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-18T00:29:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: is energy a real problem?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/general/is-energy-a-real-problem/m-p/3546650#M2670</link>
      <description>Hi Uwe,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks so much for your reply.&lt;BR /&gt;I do remember our discussion about saving disk energy by spinning down disks in July,2004 on this forum.  &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;On single disk environments,like PC or laptop, a common disk energy saving policy is to spin down disk to standby state after a no-request period. The disk will be spun up when a request arriving. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If we can generate such a long idle period for some(maybe not all)server disks with affordable performance degradation, do you think it's an acceptable idea to save disk energy for storage systems?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Dong</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 20:59:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/general/is-energy-a-real-problem/m-p/3546650#M2670</guid>
      <dc:creator>Dong Li</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-18T20:59:33Z</dc:date>
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