topic Installation of 2nd processor in HPE ProLiant Servers (ML,DL,SL)

Installation of 2nd processor

M Ahson — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:16:11 GMT

I have bought a HP ProLiant ML350 G5 Intel Xeon E5420 Quad Core and am trying to install the second processor which is Product code BX80574E5420A MM 898982 Xeon Quad Core processor. The machine does not boot when the second processor is installed. I have called HP and they say that the HP part No which will work is 458265. I went back to the vendor, I purchased the processor from, and he says that the Intel processor is the same part no which has been given to me. I fail to understand why does the second processor is not being accepted and the machine does not boot. Can you kindly tell me if this is the right processor or if something may be wrong with the processor."

Re: Installation of 2nd processor

lachuzhnikov — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:59:07 GMT

Are you sure than your VRM is working?
Try to remove and insert it again (vrm).

Re: Installation of 2nd processor

M Ahson — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:50:12 GMT

Please excuse my ignorance-what does VRM stand for?

Re: Installation of 2nd processor

Matti_Kurkela — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:03:47 GMT

VRM = Voltage Regulator Module.
It is a small card that produces the correct voltages for the processor.

Sometimes it may also be called PPM = Processor Power Module. (I guess the marketing people wanted to invent a new name for it?)

See page 76 of ML350 G5 Maintenance and Service Guide:

http://bizsupport2.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c00708990/c00708990.pdf

The PPM for the second processor is listed as item #23.

Please examine the internal health LED status, as listed on pages 78-79 of the document.

MK

Re: Installation of 2nd processor

marcus1234 — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:33:34 GMT

hi you will need the PPM it is extra optional not standard , also try with new cpu in first slot if it works then add second cpu ,

reason to switch the cpu around is because one will have higher stepping and that is best suited to first slot , this is not an unusual issue ,

Re: Installation of 2nd processor

marcus1234 — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:38:26 GMT

oh
i forgot to mention on this 350 server if all works and the PPM diode is amber , means a faulty power supply , a known issue,all will work fine its just a circuit issue on these power supplies that causes this issue, and lights the diode..

Re: Installation of 2nd processor

Ed Meadows — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 03:36:06 GMT

Mark1234,

I thought that the processor with the LOWER stepping goes in CPU slot 0 (the first slot). Here is an HP forum posting saying the same thing: "The bootstrap processor needs to be the lower of the two." http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=670760

Re: Installation of 2nd processor

marcus1234 — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:06:56 GMT

higher stepping first the case you refer towas most likely sorted by firmware hence not realy related to stepping, so higher stepping is first primary slot , done it many times..

Re: Installation of 2nd processor

Ogre — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:35:46 GMT

Do you receive any sort of error when you power on the system? Like "Unsupported processor" If you get anything like this you need to remove the new processor, upgrade the Rom Bios firmware and then install the additional processor.

Re: Installation of 2nd processor

M Ahson — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:21:48 GMT

If the system gave an error then we would know what the problem is. The system does not power-on with the 2nd processor. only when we remove the second processor that the system boots. I have not tried the other suggestions but will do this coming weekend.

Re: Installation of 2nd processor

SC Johnson — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:08:06 GMT

I'm wondering how you made out over the weekend. The addition of a second CPU (a 5410) is exactly what I want to do but don't the cost premium applied to the "HP branded" part v.s. the OEM part.

Re: Installation of 2nd processor

M Ahson — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:28:55 GMT

Tried over this weekend. Unfortunately, could not make it work because the VRN is missing. Will buy one this week and give it a go again. The second processor does work when we put it in the first slot but the making the two processor work together is still a dream.

Also power connector of the fan and heat sink which came with the second processor has 4 pins. Will need to get a five pin fan.

Re: Installation of 2nd processor

M Ahson — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:03:29 GMT

The heat sink and fan which came with the processor had 4 pins as compared to HP 5 pin connection. When I tried to get HP part numbers for Fan and Heat sink and VRN, so I oould purchase them I got no answers.

I have ended purchasing the HP part at double the cost of Intel XEON processor. I didn't know a thing about servers and have ended spending lots of money with no real benefit.

If you are like me then I suggest you purchase HP parts.

Re: Installation of 2nd processor

SC Johnson — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:39:37 GMT

From my vantage point you have made the right call. Your time is worth money and you've probably passed the break-even point.

From a customer satisfaction perspective I wish HP would provide some reasoning behind the price premium- this is especially appropriate for entry-level servers that are so price sensitive. It _feels_ like the "left-handed screwdriver" fee applied to government funded programs.

Sigh...