topic Re: Procurve 2610-PWR stops delivering POE in Switches, Hubs, and Modems

Procurve 2610-PWR stops delivering POE

Raymon van der Meijden — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:47:39 GMT

Hi,

I have several Procurve 2610-24-PWR-24 switches for a year now. In the past i have had the issue that on connecting a APC PDU to the network the switch reboots. This issue is solved by upgrading to Software revision R.11.30

So several weeks no problem but since this week i have had 3 of the 6 switches stopping with delivering POE to the Cisco 7960 phones. After a reboot everything is fine.

Does anyone knows a solution or do i need ti switch to another brand ? (cisco)

ProCurve J9087A Switch 2610-24-PWR

Re: Procurve 2610-PWR stops delivering POE

Shadow13 — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 08:52:05 GMT

Can you post the "show tech all" output from the switch while the phones are connected and mention which ports.

and is it the poe issue only or connectivity issue, try to connect normal device to these ports and check if you get connectivity.

Re: Procurve 2610-PWR stops delivering POE

Raymon van der Meijden — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:32:58 GMT

The only thing that stops working is the poe. My notebook was connected behind a Cisco 7960 phone, and doring the power i pluged in the cable from the switch directly into my laptop and connectivitie was fine (THis way i rebooted the switch using telnet)

Re: Procurve 2610-PWR stops delivering POE

ARC Technologies — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:48:57 GMT

We appear to have had the same thing happen to us this morning.

We have two J9087A switches (ProCurve 2610-24-PWR), both running firmware R.11.30. Both in the same closet. The first uplinks to another closet, the second is daisy-chained off the first one. The first one is maybe a year old, the second one is a few months old. The first has been running fine since we deployed it maybe six months ago, until today. The second switch has been trouble-free. Both are on the same APC Smart-UPS.

This morning, the first switch spontaneously stopped providing power. It would still pass network traffic to devices that didn't need PoE, including to the second J9087A and to the other closet.

Our PoE devices are mostly Nortel IP 2001 and IP 2004 phones, but we also have one 3Com Intellijack NJ2000, and all devices on that switch went dead. Powered devices on the second switch were fine.

"show power-management" said 0 W used out of 406 W available. Details on each port showed "Searching".

We tried disabling and then re-enabling power for all ports; didn't help. We rebooted the switch with the "boot" command and that seemed to clear the trouble. Now it says 43 W used.

Examining "show logging -a", all was quiet until 8:50:55 AM this morning, when suddenly (what appears to be) every PoE port logged "PD Removed", quickly followed by "is now off-line", all within a second or two.

It appears all those PoE ports then started flapping the link state, with "is now on-line" and "is now off-line" repeating. No "PD Detected" events, though. During all this, some "Excessive CRC/alignment errors" warnings are also logged for the effected ports. This continues until the reboot.

After the reboot, during startup, we see "PD Detected" and "Applying Power to PD" for all PoE ports, as expected.

I have a "show tech all" log which I will try to attach.

Anyone got any ideas? It seems to be "fixed" now, but I'm worried it will happen again.

Re: Procurve 2610-PWR stops delivering POE

Raymon van der Meijden — Fri, 26 Mar 2010 11:42:57 GMT

Hi,

I think you need to contact HP Procurve support to ask for a new firmware

Re: Procurve 2610-PWR stops delivering POE

DaFresh — Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:03:34 GMT

Hi,

We have same things here with 5 of our Procurve 2610 24 PWR / R.11.30, wich are located on multiples sites.

When we add POE devices (here Polycom Kirk 600v3 Wireless Server, very low power consumption devices), the switch sometimes stop sending power, even (sometimes again) after switch reboot/reload (we used command line 'boot' or 'reload').

It only appends when the 2nd or 3rd device is plugged on, never with the first.

We have to unplug / plug the device one by one to reactivate the POE on these ports. We have max 5 POE devices per switch.

We really think this problem is coming from the switch itself, the fact is we know peoples using the same POE device (Polycom Kirk 600v3) on Cisco or Dlink switch, and add no problem.

This device are critical for us (used for voip ...), does we need to 'switch' to an other brand or wait for a fw update that solve the problem ?

If it can help i can send a "show tech all" of the concerned Procurve, but i think our configuration is very basic.

@Raymon : do you have found any solution or explication ? (settings ect ...)

Re: Procurve 2610-PWR stops delivering POE

ARC Technologies — Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:21:23 GMT

We ended up contacting ProCurve tech support. Sent them a "show tech all" log. They said they couldn't find a cause in the log, and that no upcoming firmware addressed any issue like this, so they offered to overnight us a new switch. Which we did. So far, no trouble, but it's only happened once anyway, so who knows?

I would suggest contacting tech support. You may want to mention this discussion thread to them; it sounds like there's some kind of relatively uncommon but still recurring defect here.

Re: Procurve 2610-PWR stops delivering POE

Shadow13 — Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:29:29 GMT

Will testing the device on Cisco and Dlink is not the same, but on the other hand 2610 has some PoE issues, i would recommend openning a support ticket with procurve and check.

Re: Procurve 2610-PWR stops delivering POE

Raymon van der Meijden — Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:29:50 GMT

I think you just need to install the new firmware, i didnt have any trouble yet and am currently using 7 Procurve 2610-24-PWR-24 switches.

Im using 11.48 but i`m unable to attach the firmware due to size limit.

Re: Procurve 2610-PWR stops delivering POE

DaFresh — Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:36:10 GMT

Thx for reply,

I've just contact them, and the story is very different ... hopefully !

The POE problem is apparently known, they send me a new firmware (R_11_51) for test, not yet release on the web site.

I dont know if this release R_11_51 is stable/reliable for production, so i will only push it on our unused 2610 and Kirk 600v3 devices.

I will send a feed back in a few day.

Re: Procurve 2610-PWR stops delivering POE

DaFresh — Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:38:31 GMT

Where did you find the 11_48 ?
Only found 11_30 :

http://www.procurve.com/customercare/support/software/switches.htm

Re: Procurve 2610-PWR stops delivering POE

Shadow13 — Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:06:17 GMT

R11.48 has been removed

For the R.11.51 can you tell me what firmware are you running now ?

Re: Procurve 2610-PWR stops delivering POE

DaFresh — Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:01:16 GMT

Actually R11.30 .

Re: Procurve 2610-PWR stops delivering POE

ARC Technologies — Wed, 12 May 2010 15:16:31 GMT

Happened again with the replacement switch they shipped us. Exact same symptoms. So whatever it is, it's not a single unit manufacturing defect. It's either a firmware bug or a design flaw.

I will be contacting support again.

Re: Procurve 2610-PWR stops delivering POE

DaFresh — Wed, 12 May 2010 16:08:20 GMT

I am currently in touch with the hp support (here in France), give us lot of logs (show tech all) of the issue, with different firmware release (actually v11.30 and v11.58).

It seems that my ticket reach the level 2, but i am waiting for a feed back since 3 weeks ...
hope it will not be trashed.

Re: Procurve 2610-PWR stops delivering POE

Josh Patten — Tue, 22 Feb 2011 01:17:45 GMT

I've seen this happen on one of our 2610-24/12PWR's. I've found this issue for us was related to power coming from the wall. Our PoE ports would start flapping after plugging in 3 or 4 PoE devices. What was causing this issue for us was a cheap 750kVa APC desktop UPS that was outputting modified sine wave. As soon as we put a much better (and quite a bit more expensive) HP 1500kVa full sine wave UPS in place this problem disappeared.

Try plugging the switch into a different UPS or even a different wall outlet (try it without a UPS attached). These switches seem to be sensitive to the power they get.

Re: Procurve 2610-PWR stops delivering POE

Patrut — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:25:16 GMT

Hi, there is a fix for this problem available now in R.11.68, you can get it at the support line.

Re: Procurve 2610-PWR stops delivering POE

hakancicekci — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:31:14 GMT

Thank you , we will try this, i hope it will work

Re: Procurve 2610-PWR stops delivering POE

DaFresh — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:44:25 GMT

Hi, just for information, in the hope that it will help, i solve my problem (with Kirk 600v3 gateways) by using cables without ground connection (RJ45 with plastic head).

I think that the problem come from the Kirk electric design, they had ground problem, isolate them electrically from the switch solve the problem ....