topic Re: lifetime for rx2620 in Integrity Servers

lifetime for rx2620

Fauziah Mahdan — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:56:48 GMT

What is the life time for this server?

fauziah

Re: lifetime for rx2620

DCE — Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:00:41 GMT

According to the attached link, there is no announced end of life yet.

http://h20338.www2.hp.com/hpux11i/downloads/public_hp-ux_systems_support.pdf

Re: lifetime for rx2620

rick jones — Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:25:22 GMT

Historically, EOL for HP server hardware (well at least HP 9000 and Integrity) is five years beyond last CPL (Corporate Price List) date. The rx2620 is still on the CPL.

Re: lifetime for rx2620

Fauziah Mahdan — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:25:34 GMT

Hi thanks for the info. Anyway what is estimate size for HPUX11.23 OS installation?

Re: lifetime for rx2620

Luk Vandenbussche — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:26:27 GMT

Hi,

Here you find the installation guide for HPUX 11.23

http://www.docs.hp.com/en/oshpux11iv2.html#Installing%20and%20Updating

PLS don't forget submitting points.

Re: lifetime for rx2620

Robert Gezelter — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:27:52 GMT

Fauziah,

Of course, newer hardware will be out way before the rx2620 hits end of life.

What is the need for knowing the end of life date?

- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com

Re: lifetime for rx2620

Fauziah Mahdan — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:31:21 GMT

I need to get the exact date for Itanium RX2620 for capacity planning.
Whether to upgarde the existing server or buy new server.

Re: lifetime for rx2620

rick jones — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:25:40 GMT

I don't know that HP would have an exact date because I'm not sure when we've decided when to remove that system from the price list, and end of support is a delta off of last date on the CPL. probably a question for a real, live HP sales rep.

Re: lifetime for rx2620

Robert Gezelter — Sat, 11 Nov 2006 04:44:17 GMT

Fauziah,

The HP "End of Life" is generally not a reliable milepost on when to make the decision to upgrade or replace.

It is common for various upgrades to be available and viable for many systems, despite their being considered "End of Life" for new systems sales.

In my experience (25+ years), the question of upgrade/replace must be made at the time the capacity question arises, not earlier. The economics are the important issue, and that cannot be known until that moment.

An example. If a set of upgrades for an rx2620 costs $ 5,000, and the newer replacement system with many performance and capacity related improvements is available for $ 5,500, it is generally not the best decision to retain the rx2620 (the new machine will get you more than just the single performance/capacity upgrade).

If the new machine costs $ 25,000, it may pay to upgrade the rx2620, even though it is technically "End of Life".

Systems are generally supported long after their last available for sale date. "End of Life", meaning actual, explicit, de-support is often far, far later. In the OpenVMS world, the original VAX-11/780 was only de-supported fairly recently, over 20 years since its introduction.

- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com

Re: lifetime for rx2620

Fauziah Mahdan — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:54:58 GMT

Thanks for the info Bob,
But there is no patch and firmware available if the product reach end of life support right?
Actually we are thinking of either
1) maintain A500 machine by add on the disk n memory but end of life next year
2) Replace to new rx2620 server. Require the product end of life support for long term capacity planning.

Re: lifetime for rx2620

rick jones — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:38:38 GMT

Your sales rep or reseller should be able to give you the standard EOL discussion. The rx2620 will be on the CPL for at least a little while yet, and euros to berliners if it were to come-off the CPL tomorrow, the EOL date would be five years after that.

Once a system goes beyond the EOL date, it isn't as if it will suddenly go poof and stop functioning. I suspect that by the time you have a system reach the EOL date the SW at least would be very stable. The HW probably as stable although aging. And, while new OS revisions released after the EOL date may not "support" an EOL system, they do from time to time actually "work" on an EOL system, particularly if there are still "supported" systems using similar CECs and CPUs.

Given a choice, I would go with the rx2620 rather than continuing with the A500.