topic Re: Device File name appears as (null) to HWMGR in Operating System - Tru64 Unix

Device File name appears as (null) to HWMGR

R Swenson — Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:03:19 GMT

# /sbin/disklabel -rw dsk5
disklabel: dsk5: No such file or directory

This is the response I get when trying to use disklabel in /devices/disk. I get the same results in /devices/ndisk. Both directories contain the files dsk0a-h through dsk4a-h.

Additional information: When I use HWMGR, the disk shows up, but the DEVICE FILE name is this: (null) My other disks show up as dsk0 - dsk4.

Thanks in advance.

Re: Device File name appears as (null) to HWMGR

Michael Schulte zur Sur — Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:11:11 GMT

Hi,

when you delete the device with hwmgr and do a scan, does that change anything?
A NULL means that there is no device behind that file anymore.

greetings,

Michael

Re: Device File name appears as (null) to HWMGR

R Swenson — Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:24:43 GMT

What device specification do I use to delete? The HWID? "(null)"?

Re: Device File name appears as (null) to HWMGR

Ivan Ferreira — Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:38:51 GMT

when you run hwmgr v d you get the HWID, using that information run:

hwmgr delete -id

Re: Device File name appears as (null) to HWMGR

R Swenson — Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:55:14 GMT

# /sbin/hwmgr delete -id 59
hwmgr: Error unable to find subsystem name in command line.

No luck.

Re: Device File name appears as (null) to HWMGR

Mulgund — Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:40:36 GMT

#/sbin/hwmgr -delete scsi -id

Else try,
#/sbin/hwmgr -show scsi
Chk. the did (2nd column) corresponding to dsk5

then,
#/sbin/hwmgr -delete scsi -did

Hope this helps,
-Srinivas

Re: Device File name appears as (null) to HWMGR

Kapil Jha — Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:55:34 GMT

Hi
I had same problem tried everything but of no use then I removed the disk from array put put it again and problem solved.
Hope this wul solve ur problem
Thanks

Re: Device File name appears as (null) to HWMGR

Hein van den Heuvel — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 03:32:39 GMT

I happened to have dealt with a much similar sounding problem yesterday.
It was a little more complicated, as it was a cluster and the disk _seemed_ to work as an other cluster member was performing a distributed raw device service for it.

We had a 'null' and yet there were 2 path indicated and a BLT entries visible.
'hwmgr -show comp inconsisten' did also highlight that device ID.

We cleaned up using:
hwmgr -delete -d xxx
hwmgr -scan scsi

The device now re-appeared, with a fresh ID and a fresh dskXX name.
You can rename that with cfsmgr, but why bother for a new device, and for us we only flipped the softlink in /etc/fdmns/yyy_domain to point to the new disk file.

note 1...
We further cleaned up with: hwmgr -refresh component.

Note 2...
Consider hwmgr -scan component

Hth,
Hein.

Re: Device File name appears as (null) to HWMGR

Pieter 't Hart — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 05:13:54 GMT

apearently dsk5 was once present in the system but isn't at this time.
Remember Tru64 now disks have "unique" id's
they are not mapped to a SCSI-slot anymore.
once unix has detected the disks you can move them around in the slots and theyremain operational (as long as you reboot the system first or send rescan de scsibus).

at boottime the system runs "dsfmgr -K" to create the special-files in /dev/disks.
so when at boottime the disk5 is not present there will not be any dsk5a-h special file.

so after "hwmgr -scan scsi" and "hwmgr -show scsi" the file name still is NULL then the disk is not in the system or the disk is
not functioning.
and dsfmgr -K or dsfmgr -F will not create any special files in /dev/disk.

Pieter

Re: Device File name appears as (null) to HWMGR

R Swenson — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:24:21 GMT

I solved my own problem, but thanks for the feedback.

My console log had this message on it: "hwc_user_cmd:framework error 60" "hwc_run_dsfmgr_cmd: cmd failure (frame=60), (subsys=0)"

As recommended by the system itself, I entered the following command: "/sbin/dn_setup -boot" to synchronize dsfmgr with kernel

Resulting messages were: "dsfmgr: NOTE: updating kernel basenames and old devnames for system at /" "dsfmgr:NOTE: creating device special files for system at /" "+dsk5a +dsk5a +dsk5b +dsk5b ... +dsk5h +dsk5h"

After this I did an hwmgr -scan scsi and an hwmgr -show scsi The device that had showed up as "(null)" previously now shows up as dsk5. On to the next staep, thanks to everyone for their suggestions.

Re: Device File name appears as (null) to HWMGR

Michael Schulte zur Sur — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:41:40 GMT

Hi,

it is nice to assign points but rather an insult to assign 0 points for an honest try to help. Unless a post is off topic, you are saying "Spare your efforts next time".

greetings,

Michael

Re: Device File name appears as (null) to HWMGR

R Swenson — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:50:10 GMT

So noted. The points I assigned fairly reflect the assistance given to solving the problem posted, not to the general assistance given. I have assigned points in the past for helpful advice with no complaints.

As stated numerous times throughout my previous posts, "thanks for any assistance". But I don't award points for advice that doesnt' solve a problem. To do so would merely cheapen the awards system, IMHO.

Re: Device File name appears as (null) to HWMGR

Michael Schulte zur Sur — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:59:24 GMT

Hi,

for answers that show a willingness to help but do not give a solution to the answer 1-3 points are suggested. Again, 0 points suggests "Why did you even try?". Ok, points are not everything but a good incentive.

;-)

Michael

Re: Device File name appears as (null) to HWMGR

Hein van den Heuvel — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:28:45 GMT

fwiw,

I agree with Michael's sentiment.

All the reply presented would have helped you solve the problem. I found it very bizarre to see the 0 point assigned.

And no, I don't need more points.
I do not an indication that the effort is appreciated.

Cheers,
Hein
[0 points for this please :-]

Re: Device File name appears as (null) to HWMGR

Pieter 't Hart — Wed, 26 Apr 2006 01:25:19 GMT

I interpret Hein's en Michael's post as "better leave the unassigned" then assign zero points for answers that didn't contribute to the solution.

Pieter