topic Re: using CC in Operating System - OpenVMS

using CC

Levon Nikoghosyan — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 14:18:34 GMT

Please help me to solve following problem
%LICENSE-F-NOAUTH, DEC C use is not authorized on this node
-LICENSE-F-NOLICENSE, no license is active for this software product
-LICENSE-I-SYSMGR, please see your system manager
%TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows
module name routine name

Please explain what I have to do and how I can receive the license

thanks in advance

Re: using CC

Ian Miller. — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 15:22:03 GMT

You need to load a licence for the C compiler.

(see LICENSE command)

You acquire the licences from HP or a HP reseller

Re: using CC

Steven Schweda — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 16:09:12 GMT

> You acquire the licences from HP or a HP reseller

Or, for non-commercial use:

http://montagar.com/licenses.php

Re: using CC

Levon Nikoghosyan — Wed, 02 Mar 2011 12:24:43 GMT

I have received license from montagar.com/licenses.php

but I don't know How I have to setup license using license command because the license is set to "license register VAX-VMS" - no any other choices provided on montagar.com

I am new on Vax system so may be some questions is very simple and stupid

Please help me completely setup CC

Thanks in advance

Re: using CC

Steven Schweda — Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:33:49 GMT

> I have received license from
> montagar.com/licenses.php

Which one(s)?

> [...] "license register VAX-VMS" [...]

Apparently the wrong one(s).

> [...] no any other choices provided on
> montagar.com

Really? Nothing there about "layered
products"? Are you sure? I'd look again.

Which sort of hardware (or emulator) are you
using? VAX, Alpha, or IA64?

Re: using CC

Levon Nikoghosyan — Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:51:02 GMT

>Really? Nothing there about "layered
>products"? Are you sure? I'd look again.

Sorry You are right :)

>Which sort of hardware (or emulator) are you
>using? VAX, Alpha, or IA64

my hardware is VAX 4000-400

Still I have a question - in the generated file I have found huge list of different licenses. Need I register all or I have to find out related to CC compiler ?

Re: using CC

Levon Nikoghosyan — Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:12:16 GMT

$ LICENSE REGISTER C - is this one is correct solution ?

Re: using CC

Hoff — Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:46:45 GMT

VMS software licensing is comparatively primitive and quite complex, and its implementation can sometimes unfortunately cause a system manager to become stuck in a complex and arcane environment when core PAKs are not available and not easily registered.

Some background...

There are two files of licenses that are necessary from the hobbyist program.

There is the base OS license set, and this set is architecture specific.

There is the layered product license set, and this is architecture-generic.

You need both sets; the base OS set and the product set.

The files containing the licenses that are generated from the hobbyist web site are usually DCL procedures that can be directly invoked via @(filename).

For cases such as this, this license product authorization key (PAK) registration gets tricky is when you don't have few core licenses loaded first. This is probably the most user-hostile part of LMF, as you basically have to break into the system from the console to get anywhere here.

Once you have a few core licenses registered and loaded, you can then transfer the rest of the files via the network or otherwise, and invoke the files containing the licenses to load all of the keys.

Here is some reading:

http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/1692

and particularly:

http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/259

Re: using CC

Steven Schweda — Wed, 02 Mar 2011 15:35:22 GMT

> $ LICENSE REGISTER C - is this one is
> correct solution ?

That's the C compiler. As I recall, the
C compiler installation instructions mention
which PAK you need.

Re: using CC

Jan van den Ende — Wed, 02 Mar 2011 15:46:17 GMT

Levon,

>>>
> $ LICENSE REGISTER C - is this one is
> correct solution ?

That's the C compiler. As I recall, the
C compiler installation instructions mention
which PAK you need.
<<<

Steven is correct.
But do not forget to LOAD the license.
The standard registration script DOES offer the option to LOAD (and does so by default, if I remember correct), but if not, then a license needs to by LOADed into memory by
$ LICENSE LOAD
before it can be used.

hth

Proost.

Have one on me.

jpe

Re: using CC

Shriniketan Bhagwat — Wed, 02 Mar 2011 17:13:12 GMT

Hi,

Below is the link on openVMS licensing.

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/84final/4584/4584pro_003.html

Regards,
Ketan

Re: using CC

Hoff — Wed, 02 Mar 2011 17:35:19 GMT

What Steven, jpe and Ketan are referring to is entirely correct, but it's not congruent with the OpenVMS Hobbyist licensing implementation, nor is it how the hobbyists will typically encounter issues with software licensing, nor is it how a hobbyist can most easily resolve the usual triggers.

With the hobbyist license implementation, you (need to) request and download two separate files of PAKs, and you then invoke to each file to register and load the PAKs, reboot to reset the state of all software, and (if it all works) you're off and running.

it's commonplace for a new hobbyist user to request or to load just one of the sets of PAKs, and that would cause exactly these symptoms.