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    <title>topic Re: -SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error in Operating System - OpenVMS</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/3489777#M103427</link>
    <description>Hi Russell,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I'm afraid the disk is gone. A CTRLERR indicates in 99% of the cases a hardware problem. I hope you have a backup (no pun intended).&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;QUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Although, I can still "set def" to that directory --- but I can not view the content of that disk.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/QUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;For SET DEFAULT, the device &amp;amp; directory do not have to exist. SET DEFAULT only sets some defaults for file parsing.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Regards,&lt;BR /&gt;Kris (aka Qkcl)</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2005 04:11:33 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Kris Clippeleyr</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2005-02-21T04:11:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>-SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/3489774#M103424</link>
      <description>I have 1 disk in my ES40 server running OPENVMS V7.2 w/c I can no longer access. Although, I can still "set def" to that directory --- but I can not view the content of that disk. I am prompted with error. Below are some of the commands i try to execute but still I failed to access the disk.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Below are some of commands I issued to access the disk with error messages.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;P_@[PSIPROD]&amp;gt; set def disk$lagprom:[lagunaprod]&lt;BR /&gt;P_@[PSIPROD]&amp;gt; sh def&lt;BR /&gt;  DISK$LAGPROM:[LAGUNAPROD]&lt;BR /&gt;P_@[PSIPROD]&amp;gt; dir&lt;BR /&gt;%DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening DISK$LAGPROM:[LAGUNAPROD]*.*;* as input&lt;BR /&gt;-RMS-E-FND, ACP file or directory lookup failed&lt;BR /&gt;-SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error&lt;BR /&gt;P_@[PSIPROD]&amp;gt; anal/err/brief DISK$LAGPROM:&lt;BR /&gt;Error Log Report Generator                                      Version V7.2&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;%ERF-E-SEARCHFAIL, error searching for DISK$LAGPROM:[LAGUNAPROD]ERRLOG.SYS;&lt;BR /&gt;-RMS-E-FND, ACP file or directory lookup failed&lt;BR /&gt;-SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error&lt;BR /&gt;P_@[PSIPROD]&amp;gt; anal/disk/NOrepair DISK$LAGPROM:&lt;BR /&gt;%ANALDISK-F-OPENINDEX, error opening INDEXF.SYS, RVN 1&lt;BR /&gt;-SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error&lt;BR /&gt;P_@[PSIPROD]&amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2005 03:59:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/3489774#M103424</guid>
      <dc:creator>Russell Jones</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-02-21T03:59:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: -SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/3489775#M103425</link>
      <description>Can anyone pls help what is the error?</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2005 04:00:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/3489775#M103425</guid>
      <dc:creator>Russell Jones</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-02-21T04:00:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: -SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/3489776#M103426</link>
      <description>Russell&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The message &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;QUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;-SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;QUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Probably indicates a hardawre error.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Saludos.&lt;BR /&gt;Daniel&lt;/QUOTE&gt;&lt;/QUOTE&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2005 04:07:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/3489776#M103426</guid>
      <dc:creator>Daniel Fernandez Illan</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-02-21T04:07:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: -SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/3489777#M103427</link>
      <description>Hi Russell,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I'm afraid the disk is gone. A CTRLERR indicates in 99% of the cases a hardware problem. I hope you have a backup (no pun intended).&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;QUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Although, I can still "set def" to that directory --- but I can not view the content of that disk.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/QUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;For SET DEFAULT, the device &amp;amp; directory do not have to exist. SET DEFAULT only sets some defaults for file parsing.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Regards,&lt;BR /&gt;Kris (aka Qkcl)</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2005 04:11:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/3489777#M103427</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kris Clippeleyr</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-02-21T04:11:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: -SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/6631484#M103428</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;So, wat's is the probable solution to this problem?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can anybody help?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Gaurav&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:30:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/6631484#M103428</guid>
      <dc:creator>Gaurav_G</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-09-26T19:30:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: -SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/6633220#M103429</link>
      <description>This is a hardware problem that can only be fixed with hardware replacement. I have in the past successfully exchanged a controller board on the physical disk with the intent of saving data only (not for continued production use), but for the most part hardware replacement is the only option. If the problem is with the controller card in the system (as opposed to the controller on the disk), then replace the card.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Dan</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2014 11:27:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/6633220#M103429</guid>
      <dc:creator>abrsvc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-09-29T11:27:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: -SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/6633660#M103430</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Dan,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks for the reply.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is this problem related to controller of the disk or the entire disk?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If its the problem with controller only then how can one replace the controller? what is the process of the same?&lt;BR /&gt;And if there is issue with disk, what one supposed to do?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Regards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Gaurav&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2014 15:53:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/6633660#M103430</guid>
      <dc:creator>Gaurav_G</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-09-29T15:53:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: -SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/6634712#M103431</link>
      <description>There is a lack of details in these postings. Can you please post the device info? Perhaps the output from SHOW DEV/FUL DISK$LAGPROM woud help.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Disks are "smart" in that SCSI disks have their own controllers to manage the device requests. This is different from the IO controller to which the disks are connected. You have an ES47 which has disk controller cards in it. These are what I am calling the IO controllers. Each disk has its own PC board attached which is its own disk controller.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Hope this helps,&lt;BR /&gt;Dan</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:38:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/6634712#M103431</guid>
      <dc:creator>abrsvc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-09-30T10:38:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: -SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/6639802#M103432</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;CTRLERR means &amp;gt;&amp;gt;controller error&amp;lt;&amp;lt; in contrast to DEVERR &amp;gt;&amp;gt;device error&amp;lt;&amp;lt;. So in case of CTRLERR the SCSI controller has a "problem". This could be because the SCSI bus is incorrectly configured (assuming it is really an "internal" disk drive and no fibre) or, the controller board has a failure .&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Was something changed on the SCSI bus? SCSI bus termination? Any other device hooked up to that bus section?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The errorlog would have a bit more about what the controller's problem is.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;/Guenther&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2014 03:38:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/6639802#M103432</guid>
      <dc:creator>GuentherF</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-10-07T03:38:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: -SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/6640762#M103433</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;"Is this problem related to controller of the disk or the entire disk?"&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Who knows?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Do you have hardware support with HP for this device? If so, log a job with them and problem is solved.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;EM&gt;"If its the problem with controller only then how can one replace the controller? what is the process of the same?&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;EM&gt;And if there is issue with disk, what one supposed to do?"&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you don't have hardware support with HP then probably the cheapest approach is replace the disk, then if it still doesn't work, replace the controller (assuming it's not an on-board controller).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Cheers,&lt;BR /&gt;Mark&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2014 01:25:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/6640762#M103433</guid>
      <dc:creator>MarkOfAus</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-10-08T01:25:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: -SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/6640894#M103434</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yeah, calling hp for assistance...hurry up before all employees are gone. ;-)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A DCL-SHOW DEVICE should show one device's error count going up. It would be either a PK or a PG device depending how the SCSI disk is connected. And as I said before the error shows a controller error (not the controller in the disk that would still be a DEVERR).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;/Guenther&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2014 03:20:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/system-f-ctrlerr-fatal-controller-error/m-p/6640894#M103434</guid>
      <dc:creator>GuentherF</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-10-08T03:20:07Z</dc:date>
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