topic Re: Restoring IMAGE BACKUP to other Controller in Operating System - OpenVMS

Restoring IMAGE BACKUP to other Controller

smsc_1 — Wed, 05 Apr 2017 12:25:39 GMT

Dear community, I'm in trouble with OpenVMS 8.4

I have 2 servers RX3600 connected to MSA1000 controller via SCSI. I make an OS backup booting from internal server disk (OpenVMS 8.4). Then I cheange the controller from MSA1000 to HP 3par 7200 with fiber connection..

I boot again from internal server boot disk, to restore the backup, but OpenVMS cannot see the new controller (ALREADY AND PROPERLY CONFIGURED) most probably due to missing driver.

Is there any other way to restore the image backup now? I'm stuck with server down.......

Thank you

Lucas

Re: Restoring IMAGE BACKUP to other Controller

David R. Lennon — Wed, 05 Apr 2017 13:48:05 GMT

Lucas,

There problem is most likely not a 'missing driver' - a VMS boot disk/system image contains all "drivers" that are needed to talk to o/s supported hardware. I would focus on the issue of the system not seeing the 3PAR LUNs. Double check your zoning, etc.

The backup commands (except for device spec) are the same to restore an image saveset no matter what the "controller" is.

- Dave

Re: Restoring IMAGE BACKUP to other Controller

Volker Halle — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 15:57:31 GMT

Lucas,

OpenVMS I64 V8.4 seems to require patch VMS84I_FIBRE_SCSI_V0500 (or later) for 3PAR support.

See: HP 3PAR OpenVMS Implementation Guide (JUN-2014)

http://h20566.www2.hpe.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?sp4ts.oid=5044394&docLocale=en_US&docId=emr_na-c04262691

Volker.

Re: Restoring IMAGE BACKUP to other Controller

smsc_1 — Wed, 05 Apr 2017 14:37:24 GMT

Thank you for response.

The problem there is that boot disk is an installation disk without 3par drivers.... So If I boot from this internal disk I cannot see the 3par. As I said 3par is correctly configured, so LUNs are ok.

Re: Restoring IMAGE BACKUP to other Controller

Volker Halle — Wed, 05 Apr 2017 14:46:16 GMT

Lucas,

can OpenVMS V8.4 configure the FC HBAs ? Does a FGA and/or FGB device exist ?

Does MC SYS$ETC:FIBRE_SCAN find any SAN controllers and LUNs ?

Note: this is OpenVMS, ALL the possible drivers are existing on the 'installation' disk. It may just be missing patches (for OpenVMS to configure the HBAs or 3PAR)

Volker.

Re: Restoring IMAGE BACKUP to other Controller

smsc_1 — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 13:52:00 GMT

SORRY double post!

Re: Restoring IMAGE BACKUP to other Controller

smsc_1 — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 13:48:59 GMT

OK, this is the actual situation. EFI can see the disk from 3par:

Searching for devices
Loading.: EFI Shell [Built-in]
EFI Shell UEFI version 2.00 [14.62]
Device mapping table
blk0 : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,0)/Pci(2|1)/Usb(0, 0)
blk1 : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,300)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN21110002AC015EAF,Lun258000000000000)
blk2 : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,300)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN21110002AC015EAF,Lun64000000000000)
blk3 : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,300)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN21110002AC015EAF,LunC8000000000000)
blk4 : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,300)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN21110002AC015EAF,Lun12C000000000000)
blk5 : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,300)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN21110002AC015EAF,Lun12D000000000000)
blk6 : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,300)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN21110002AC015EAF,Lun12E000000000000)
blk7 : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,300)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN21110002AC015EAF,Lun12F000000000000)
blk8 : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,300)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN21110002AC015EAF,Lun190000000000000)
blk9 : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,300)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN21110002AC015EAF,Lun191000000000000)
blkA : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,300)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN21110002AC015EAF,Lun1F4000000000000)
blkB : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,300)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN21110002AC015EAF,Lun1F5000000000000)
blkC : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,300)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN21110002AC015EAF,Lun1F6000000000000)
blkD : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,300)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN21110002AC015EAF,Lun1F7000000000000)
blkE : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,400)/Pci(1|0)/Sas(Addr5000C5000134CB75,Lun0)
blkF : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,400)/Pci(1|0)/Sas(Addr5000C500077E6461,Lun0)
blk10 : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,700)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN20120002AC015EAF,Lun258000000000000)
blk11 : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,700)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN20120002AC015EAF,Lun64000000000000)
blk12 : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,700)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN20120002AC015EAF,LunC8000000000000)
blk13 : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,700)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN20120002AC015EAF,Lun12C000000000000)
blk14 : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,700)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN20120002AC015EAF,Lun12D000000000000)
blk15 : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,700)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN20120002AC015EAF,Lun12E000000000000)
blk16 : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,700)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN20120002AC015EAF,Lun12F000000000000)
blk17 : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,700)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN20120002AC015EAF,Lun190000000000000)
blk18 : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,700)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN20120002AC015EAF,Lun191000000000000)
blk19 : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,700)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN20120002AC015EAF,Lun1F4000000000000)
blk1A : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,700)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN20120002AC015EAF,Lun1F5000000000000)
blk1B : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,700)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN20120002AC015EAF,Lun1F6000000000000)
blk1C : Acpi(HWP0002,PNP0A03,700)/Pci(1|0)/Fibre(WWN20120002AC015EAF,Lun1F7000000000000)

But when I boot from internal disk I cannot see the disks on 3par

XX11:SYSTEM> MC SYSMAN IO AUTOCONFIGURE /log

%SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node SMXX11
%IOGEN-I-PREFIX, searching for ICBM with prefix SYS$
%IOGEN-I-PREFIX, searching for ICBM with prefix DECW$
%IOGEN-W-NOICBM, failed to find ICBM with prefix DECW$
%IOGEN-I-FIBREPOLL, scanning for devices through FIBRE port FGA0
%IOGEN-I-SASPOLL, scanning for devices through SAS port PKA0
%IOGEN-I-FIBREPOLL, scanning for devices through FIBRE port FGB0
XX11:SYSTEM> show dev d

Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free Trans Mnt
Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks Count Cnt
SMXX11$DKA100:          Online               0
SMXX11$DKA200:          Mounted              0 SMXX11_54E   135379988   351   1
SMXX11$DNA0:            Online wrtlck        0
SMXX11$DNA1:            Online wrtlck        0

XX11:SYSTEM> mc sys$etc:fibre_scan

**************************************************************************
**************************************************************************
**                                                                      **
**    Scanning port FGA for all Fibre Channel devices (display only)    **
**                                                                      **
**************************************************************************
**************************************************************************

Probing Target 1 ==========================================================

Target = 1. LUN = 0.
----------------------
Standard Inquiry failed, status = a58 (SS$_NOMOREDEV)
None found on this port.
End of scan for port FGA.

**************************************************************************
**************************************************************************
**                                                                      **
**    Scanning port FGB for all Fibre Channel devices (display only)    **
**                                                                      **
**************************************************************************
**************************************************************************

Probing Target 1 ==========================================================

Target = 1. LUN = 0.
----------------------
Standard Inquiry failed, status = a58 (SS$_NOMOREDEV)
None found on this port.
End of scan for port FGB.

XX11:SYSTEM> PIPE PRODUCT SHOW HISTORY | SEARCH SYS$PIPE UPDATE
HP I64VMS VMS84I_UPDATE V9.0         Patch       Install     Val 03-JAN-2014
HP I64VMS VMS84I_UPDATE V5.0         Patch       Install     Val 21-MAR-2011
HP I64VMS VMS84I_UPDATE V3.0         Patch       Install     Val 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS VMS831H1I_UPDATE V5.0      Patch       Remove       - 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS VMS831H1I_UPDATE V4.0      Patch       Remove       - 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS VMS831H1I_UPDATE V5.0      Patch       Install     Val 30-MAR-2009
HP I64VMS VMS831H1I_UPDATE V4.0      Patch       Install     Val 22-JAN-2009
HP I64VMS VMS83I_UPDATE V3.0         Patch       Remove       - 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS VMS83I_UPDATE V3.0         Patch       Install     Val 12-JUN-2007
XX11:SYSTEM> PIPE PRODUCT SHOW HISTORY
------------------------------------ ----------- ----------- --- -----------
PRODUCT                              KIT TYPE    OPERATION   VAL DATE
------------------------------------ ----------- ----------- --- -----------
HP I64VMS DPLUSECO02 V8.4            Patch       Install     Val 03-JAN-2014
HP I64VMS VMS84I_UPDATE V9.0         Patch       Install     Val 03-JAN-2014
HP I64VMS VMS84I_PCSI V4.0           Patch       Install     Val 03-JAN-2014
HP I64VMS DPLUSECO01 V8.4            Patch       Install     Val 21-MAR-2011
HP I64VMS TCPIP V5.7-13ECO2          Full LP     Install     Val 21-MAR-2011
HP I64VMS TCPIP V5.7-13ECO1          Full LP     Remove       - 21-MAR-2011
HP I64VMS VMS84I_UPDATE V5.0         Patch       Install     Val 21-MAR-2011
HP I64VMS VMS84I_PCSI V2.0           Patch       Install     Val 21-MAR-2011
HP I64VMS DPLUSECO01 V8.4            Patch       Install     Val 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS VMS84I_UPDATE V3.0         Patch       Install     Val 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS TCPIP V5.7-13ECO1          Full LP     Install     Val 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS TCPIP V5.7-13              Full LP     Remove       - 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS AVAIL_MAN_BASE V8.4        Full LP     Install     Val 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS CDSA V2.4-322              Full LP     Install     Val 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS DECNET_PLUS V8.4           Full LP     Install     Val 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS DWMOTIF V1.7               Full LP     Install     Val 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS DWMOTIF_SUPPORT V8.4       Full LP     Install     Val 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS HPBINARYCHECKER V1.1       Full LP     Install     Val 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS OPENVMS V8.4               Platform    Install     Sys 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS SSL V1.4-334               Full LP     Install     Val 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS TCPIP V5.7-13              Full LP     Install     Val 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS TDC_RT V2.3-20             Full LP     Install     Val 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS VMS V8.4                   Oper System Install     Val 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS WBEMCIM V2.96-A100211      Full LP     Install     Val 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS WBEMPROVIDERS V2.0-4       Full LP     Install     Val 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS AVAIL_MAN_BASE V8.3-1H1    Full LP     Remove       - 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS CDSA V2.3-306              Full LP     Remove       - 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS DECNET_PLUS V8.3-1H1       Full LP     Remove       - 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS DWMOTIF V1.6               Full LP     Remove       - 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS DWMOTIF_SUPPORT V8.3-1H1   Full LP     Remove       - 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS OPENVMS V8.3-1H1           Platform    Remove       - 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS SSL V1.3-284               Full LP     Remove       - 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS TCPIP V5.6-9ECO2           Full LP     Remove       - 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS TDC_RT V2.3-1              Full LP     Remove       - 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS VMS V8.3-1H1               Oper System Remove       - 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS VMS831H1I_JOBCTL V2.0      Patch       Remove       - 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS VMS831H1I_PCSI V1.0        Patch       Remove       - 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS VMS831H1I_UPDATE V5.0      Patch       Remove       - 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS VMS831H1I_UPDATE V4.0      Patch       Remove       - 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS WBEMCIM V2.61-A070728      Full LP     Remove       - 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS WBEMPROVIDERS V1.5-31      Full LP     Remove       - 23-AUG-2010
HP I64VMS VMS831H1I_UPDATE V5.0      Patch       Install     Val 30-MAR-2009
HP I64VMS VMS831H1I_JOBCTL V2.0      Patch       Install     Val 22-JAN-2009
HP I64VMS VMS831H1I_UPDATE V4.0      Patch       Install     Val 22-JAN-2009
HP I64VMS VMS831H1I_PCSI V1.0        Patch       Install     Val 15-JAN-2009
HP VMS DFU V3.2                      Full LP     Install     (U) 14-AUG-2008
HP I64VMS DFU V3.1-1                 Full LP     Remove       - 14-AUG-2008
HP I64VMS AVAIL_MAN_BASE V8.3-1H1    Full LP     Install     (U) 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS CDSA V2.3-306              Full LP     Install     Val 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS DECNET_PLUS V8.3-1H1       Full LP     Install     Val 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS DWMOTIF_SUPPORT V8.3-1H1   Full LP     Install     (U) 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS KERBEROS V3.1-152          Full LP     Install     Val 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS OPENVMS V8.3-1H1           Platform    Install     Sys 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS TCPIP V5.6-9ECO2           Full LP     Install     Val 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS TDC_RT V2.3-1              Full LP     Install     Val 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS VMS V8.3-1H1               Oper System Install     Sys 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS WBEMCIM V2.61-A070728      Full LP     Install     Val 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS WBEMPROVIDERS V1.5-31      Full LP     Install     Val 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS AVAIL_MAN_BASE V8.3        Full LP     Remove       - 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS CDSA V2.2-272              Full LP     Remove       - 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS DECNET_PLUS V8.3           Full LP     Remove       - 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS DWMOTIF_SUPPORT V8.3       Full LP     Remove       - 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS KERBEROS V3.0-106          Full LP     Remove       - 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS OPENVMS V8.3               Platform    Remove       - 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS TCPIP V5.6-9               Full LP     Remove       - 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS TDC_RT V2.2-107            Full LP     Remove       - 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS VMS V8.3                   Oper System Remove       - 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS VMS83I_BLADE V1.0          Patch       Remove       - 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS VMS83I_FIBRE_SCSI V4.0     Patch       Remove       - 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS VMS83I_LAN V5.0            Patch       Remove       - 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS VMS83I_LMF V2.0            Patch       Remove       - 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS VMS83I_SYS V2.0            Patch       Remove       - 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS VMS83I_UPDATE V3.0         Patch       Remove       - 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS VMS83I_BLADE V1.0          Patch       Install     Val 12-JUN-2007
HP I64VMS VMS83I_SYS V2.0            Patch       Install     Val 12-JUN-2007
HP I64VMS VMS83I_LMF V2.0            Patch       Install     Val 12-JUN-2007
HP I64VMS VMS83I_LAN V5.0            Patch       Install     Val 12-JUN-2007
HP I64VMS VMS83I_FIBRE_SCSI V4.0     Patch       Install     Val 12-JUN-2007
HP I64VMS VMS83I_UPDATE V3.0         Patch       Install     Val 12-JUN-2007
HP I64VMS DFU V3.1-1                 Full LP     Install     (U) 23-AUG-2006
HP I64VMS AVAIL_MAN_BASE V8.3        Full LP     Install     (U) 23-AUG-2006
HP I64VMS CDSA V2.2-272              Full LP     Install     Val 23-AUG-2006
HP I64VMS DECNET_PLUS V8.3           Full LP     Install     Val 23-AUG-2006
HP I64VMS DWMOTIF V1.6               Full LP     Install     Val 23-AUG-2006
HP I64VMS DWMOTIF_SUPPORT V8.3       Full LP     Install     (U) 23-AUG-2006
HP I64VMS KERBEROS V3.0-106          Full LP     Install     Val 23-AUG-2006
HP I64VMS OPENVMS V8.3               Platform    Install     (U) 23-AUG-2006
HP I64VMS SSL V1.3-284               Full LP     Install     Val 23-AUG-2006
HP I64VMS TCPIP V5.6-9               Full LP     Install     Val 23-AUG-2006
HP I64VMS TDC_RT V2.2-107            Full LP     Install     Val 23-AUG-2006
HP I64VMS VMS V8.3                   Oper System Install     (U) 23-AUG-2006

please help

Re: Restoring IMAGE BACKUP to other Controller

Volker Halle — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 15:59:31 GMT

Lucas,

OpenVMS patch level seems to be o.k. (VMS84I_UPDATE-V0900 includes VMS84I_FIBRE_SCSI-V0500).

UPDATE: the NOV-2014 'HP 3PAR OpenVMS Implementation Guide' now lists 'VMS84I_FIBRE_SCSI-V0600 (or later) as a requirement !

The EFI device mapping table looks as expected regarding the 3PAR LUNs..

Has the Host OS been defined as 'OpenVMS' on the 3PAR ?

Volker.

Re: Restoring IMAGE BACKUP to other Controller

smsc_1 — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 14:35:03 GMT

I'm gettin crazy... Yes, hosts are set for OVMS on 3par.

Re: Restoring IMAGE BACKUP to other Controller

Volker Halle — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 14:52:36 GMT

Lucas,

does OpenVMS see the 3PAR ?

$ ANALYZE/SYS

SDA> FC NAME_LIST

SDA> FC ADDRESS_LIST

SDA> FC SHOW STDT

SDA> FC SHOW WTID

Volker.

Re: Restoring IMAGE BACKUP to other Controller

smsc_1 — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 15:24:27 GMT

Well, I cannot see nothing as output:

SDA> FC NAME_LIST

FGA0: / N-Port Handle Table 893CC510 / FC-LA Table 893CE990
-----------------------------------------------------------

FC-LA     | LID Node WWID            Port WWID           | FC-LA      Address
State Flags Marker   | FC_LA$   NPH$
--------- + --- ------------------- ------------------- + --------- -------
----- ----- -------- + -------- -------
SDA> FC ADDRESS_LIST

FGA0: / N-Port Handle Table 893CC510 / FC-LA Table 893CE990
-----------------------------------------------------------

LID | FC-LA      Address State Flags Marker   | LID Node WWID            Po
rt WWID           | FC_LA$   NPH$
--- + --------- ------- ----- ----- -------- + --- ------------------- --
----------------- + -------- --------
SDA> FC SHOW STDT

SDA> FC SHOW WTID

WTIDs (WWID Throttle IO Descriptors)
------------------------------------
                                                                      | Conn Po
rt Dev   Cred Appr | QF    Cred User   Current
WTID      Product ID        Node WWID            Port WWID           | Cnt   I/
Os I/Os I/Os I/Os | Seen Avl   Cap    QF Alg
-------- ---------------- ------------------- ------------------- + ---- --
-- ---- ---- ---- + ---- ---- ----   -------

Re: Restoring IMAGE BACKUP to other Controller

Brad McCusker — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 15:48:15 GMT

Lucas,

We have a lot of experience with 3PAR and VMS. You need FIBRE_SCSI-V0600 at a mininum. Generally speaking you are way behind in patches, you should get current across the board, but, at the very least you need FIBRE_SCSI-V0600.

Best Regards,

Brad McCusker

Software Concepts International

www.sciinc.com

Re: Restoring IMAGE BACKUP to other Controller

smsc_1 — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 16:08:41 GMT

Well, I hope I don't need really that patch because I don't know where I have to download it!!! :(

However, this is the situation from 3par. node72 is where I boot from (internal disk) and there is no port, instead I have the ports on node71.... **bleep**! I don't know if this helps

3PARSTORAGE cli% showhost node71
Id Name   Persona -WWN/iSCSI_Name- Port
5 node71 OpenVMS 5001438001724F44 0:1:2
                  50014380017251A0 1:1:1
3PARSTORAGE cli% showhost node72
Id Name   Persona -WWN/iSCSI_Name- Port
4 node72 OpenVMS 5001438001725234 ---
                  500143800172506A ---

Re: Restoring IMAGE BACKUP to other Controller

Brad McCusker — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 17:35:07 GMT

You get the patch from HPE of course.

I can't tell you for certain that your situation needs the patch, but, this document is pretty clear: http://h20628.www2.hp.com/km-ext/kmcsdirect/emr_na-c04508715-3.pdf - See Table 2.1. I can't imagine why that requirement wouldn't apply to you or why you wuld want to proceed without meeting the stated mininum requirements.

Good luck.

Re: Restoring IMAGE BACKUP to other Controller

smsc_1 — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 19:06:45 GMT

Ok, I downloaded the patch, unfortunately the temp OVMS installation and servers have no network configured. So I believe I can copy the patch via USB. Could you please drive me to mount an usb pen? Sorry I'm not OpenVMS expert.

1. which file system for usb pen? FAT32 is ok? So I can copy the ZIPEXE patches from Windows and then move to OVMS

2. How can I mount the USB pen under OpenVMS?

Thanks a million for helping me, maybe you save my life!!! :-)

Re: Restoring IMAGE BACKUP to other Controller

Steven Schweda — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 22:31:48 GMT

> [...] unfortunately the temp OVMS installation and servers have no
> network configured. [...]

   That would have been the easy way. (Configuring the network might
still be the easy way.)

> [...] mount an usb pen? Sorry I'm not OpenVMS expert.

> 1. which file system for usb pen? FAT32 is ok? So I can copy the
> ZIPEXE patches from Windows and then move to OVMS

   So far as I know, VMS does not offer a built-in mechanism for dealing
with a FAT file system. There is an EFI$CP utility (MCR EFI$CP) which
might be of some use, but I know practically nothing about it, and the
help says things like:

     EFI$CP is not supported for general customer use, and is subject
     to change at any time without notice.

     This EFI$CP utility should only be used under the explicit
     direction of HP Customer Services.

   There's an MTOOLS for VMS, too, which could probably do the job, but
getting that onto a non-networked system wouldn't be easy, either.

   Someone else may have more clever ideas, but, knowing as little as I
do, ...

   The easy way (that is, one way which may be easy enough) would be to
put the files of interest onto a CD-R disc (ISO-9660). _That_, VMS
should be able to mount without needing any additional software.

   If your patch files are self-extracting zip archives (as "ZIPEXE"
suggests), then you should not also need to put a copy on UnZip onto the
CD-R. (For plain ".zip", you might need to.)

   If you get desperate, and a USB flash drive is the only possible
medium, then you might be able to find a RawWrite program for Windows
which could write a file to a USB flash drive, and then use MOUNT
/FOREIGN and COPY on the VMS system to try to recover the file, but I
would try this only if nothing else works.

Re: Restoring IMAGE BACKUP to other Controller

smsc_1 — Fri, 07 Apr 2017 05:58:58 GMT

OK, I'm surrendering... VMS84I_FIBRE_SCSI-V0600 installed and system rebooted, but nothing changes.....

XX11:SYSTEM> PIPE PRODUCT SHOW HISTORY | SEARCH SYS$PIPE scsi
HP I64VMS VMS84I_FIBRE_SCSI V6.0     Patch       Install     Val 07-APR-2017
HP I64VMS VMS83I_FIBRE_SCSI V4.0     Patch       Remove       - 01-NOV-2007
HP I64VMS VMS83I_FIBRE_SCSI V4.0     Patch       Install     Val 12-JUN-2007

Still not see the 3par.....

Re: Restoring IMAGE BACKUP to other Controller

Volker Halle — Fri, 07 Apr 2017 06:49:13 GMT

Lucas,

there is a VMS_SHOW.EFI utility under fsx:\EFI\VMS on your OpenVMS boot disk EFI partition. Set default to that directory and run 'VMS_SHOW.EFI device' - does it correctly see and display all the OpenVMS disks from the 3PAR (as DGAxxx) ?

Under OpenVMS, check SHOW DEV/FULL FG and check the WWNs of the HBAs.

Does the 3PAR 'showhost node' command only list existing connections ? If so, does it show valid port numbers, if your rx3600 is inside EFI, but NOT, if OpenVMS has been booted ?

Are the OpenVMS FC HBAs in this rx3600 supported by OpenVMS and up to the required firmware ?

Volker.

Re: Restoring IMAGE BACKUP to other Controller

smsc_1 — Fri, 07 Apr 2017 09:10:09 GMT

I'm suspecting on hardware compatibility issue.... From 3par storage server OVMS compatibility I read the following:

AB378B QLogic PCI-X 4Gb AB378B
Direct connect support: NO

We have the 3par direct connected via fibre cable to the server, so I believe this should be the problem, but I Need confirmation before I can think to change the adapters.

Re: Restoring IMAGE BACKUP to other Controller

Volker Halle — Fri, 07 Apr 2017 09:17:02 GMT

Lucas,

OpenVMS only supports SAN 'Fabric', so you need a SAN switch between the 3PAR and the OpenVMS HBAs. This may explain the difference between EFI and OpenVMS reachability of the 3PAR LUNs !

From Guidelines for OpenVMS Cluster Configurations, Chapter 7.2 Fibre Channel Configuration Support

The OpenVMS Fibre Channel host bus adapter must be connected directly to the FC switch. The host bus adapter is not supported on a Fibre Channel loop, nor in a point-to-point connection to another Fibre Channel end node.

Volker.