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About openvms in Integrity server

Integrity_1 — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:56:30 GMT

It's well known that last AlphaServer systems orders will be taken on October 27, 2006. The replacer is Integrity server.
We want to use openvms operating system in Integrity server in industry.I want to know how about it?The version of Oracle database on it?Anyone using it now?Did you meet some trouble things when use openvms&Integrity server?
Our plan: rx4640,openvms 8.2 I64.
Thanks a lot.

Re: About openvms in Integrity server

Karl Rohwedder — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 01:18:18 GMT

Via the OpenVMS homepage you can find product matrixes etc. for interity, e.g. Oracle just announced a version of RDB for Integrity (see http://dba.openvms.org/stories.php?story=06/03/07/9802626).

Note: the current version of VMS on IA64 is V8.2-1, this is what RDB needs.

regards Kalle

Re: About openvms in Integrity server

Kris Clippeleyr — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 02:22:11 GMT

Hi,

Welcome to the OpenVMS forum.

We have been using VMS on Itanium from version 8.0 (not officially released) on. We're now running V8.2-1, and planning for migrating away from the Alpha platform with most of our applications (only a few will stay on Alpha; simply because some third-party software is not, and will never be ported to VMS on Itanium). Thus far, we haven't encountered any serious problems when testing our applications on Itanium. The only drawback is that the Fortran compiler does not support F77. Recently, I installed ACMS (yet another hurdle taken).
So, the future looks good.
But, as Karl said, have a close look at the product matrix to see what is, and what is not (and maybe never will be) supported on VMS on Itanium.

Regards,
Kris (aka Qkcl)

Re: About openvms in Integrity server

Ian Miller. — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 06:43:05 GMT

You should plan on using VMS V8.2-1 which superceeded V8.2 and is better.

The main hp page you need to look at is
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/integrity/index.html

Re: About openvms in Integrity server

John Abbott_2 — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:06:13 GMT

For an up to date (Mar 06) Integrity server solutions Status Report (A-Z) view:

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/solutions/matrix/i64partner_a.html

There is also an FAQ:

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/integrity/faqs.html

Re: About openvms in Integrity server

Art Wiens — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:17:12 GMT

FWIW, and whether it's specific to Canada (I doubt it), I heard this past Monday that the final sales date for Alpha's had been pushed into 2007. That was from our HP account rep.

Good Luck,
Art

Re: About openvms in Integrity server

John Abbott_2 — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:48:57 GMT

FWIW, I've heard that Alpha sales have been very very good.

Can't believe there's a GS320 for sale on ebay...

Re: About openvms in Integrity server

Arch_Muthiah — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:49:13 GMT

Hi,

Oracle Rdb is available now. Oracle has stated that Oracle server 10gR2 will be available in this year 2006.

Archunan

Re: About openvms in Integrity server

Arch_Muthiah — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:03:02 GMT

Have look att this site, which talks about Oracle and HP OpenVMS support details ...
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/partners/oracle/vmssod.html

Archunan

Re: About openvms in Integrity server

Ian Miller. — Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:12:46 GMT

last date still Oct 27th 2006 according to
http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/

Re: About openvms in Integrity server

Integrity_1 — Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:20:18 GMT

I know Oracle Rdb is available in I64,but Oracle server 10gR2 "will be" available in this year 2006.I can't find it in Oracle download page.The newest version is:
Oracle Database 10g Release 2 (10.2.0.1.0) for HP-UX Itanium New! (07-Feb-06)
There is no Openvms I64,it seems that the next version will be for openvms,but when?
I have used Alpha server and openvms-alpha for several years.I can't accept Itanium!

Re: About openvms in Integrity server

Ian Miller. — Mon, 20 Mar 2006 05:08:34 GMT

See

http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/roadmap

slide 24

Oracle 10gR2 early drop Feb 2006.

Oracle 10gR2 production for alpha and Itanium Due Q2CY2006

Re: About openvms in Integrity server

Wim Van den Wyngaert — Mon, 20 Mar 2006 05:57:00 GMT

2 products unavailble for ever are DSM and Sybase server software. So, we will never go to Intel.

Wim

Re: About openvms in Integrity server

Ian Miller. — Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:41:37 GMT

Wim,
for DSM you would have to migrate to Cache which is available on OpenVMS I64.

Re: About openvms in Integrity server

Hein van den Heuvel — Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:24:49 GMT

Integrity wrote....

>>> Our plan: rx4640,openvms 8.2 I64.
:
>>> I have used Alpha server and openvms-alpha for several years.I can't accept Itanium!

Huh? I thought this topic was all about you wanting to move to Integrety, which has Itanium CPUs. Is there a confusion between systems/chips/architectures perhaps?

Perhaps restate your question.
What product on what platfor is yoru requirement?

Here is my _speculation_ as to why the release schedule is, as it is.

There was no Oracle-Oracle for Itamium. Oracle decided not to port the older (still heavily used versions like 9i) but go straight for the current 10g. However, the release target for that (10gR2) was not quite ready for OpenVMS. So they gave use an early drop 'to get going' with the finale release for both Alpha and Itanium (= integrety = ipf :-) to follow soon.

hth,
Hein.

Re: About openvms in Integrity server

Integrity_1 — Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:26:55 GMT

I have found a solution to this question as seen in the comments below.