topic SMTP mail sent time in Operating System - OpenVMS

SMTP mail sent time

Russ Carraro — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:25:21 GMT

Customer has legacy systems running OpenVMS 7.1 and UCX 4.2 - ECO 5. When sending SMTP mail to Outlook the "Sent" time is one hour ahead of system time. Yes, it's because of the new DST changes and this problem will probably go away in April when the old DST change date is reached. There is no patch for UCX for OpenVMS 7.1 but is there a logical that can be set that would reset the "Sent" time to match system time?

Re: SMTP mail sent time

Wim Van den Wyngaert — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:02:36 GMT

This could help
http://forums12.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?admit=109447627+1205326532385+28353475&threadId=971727

Wim (ran out of ucx)

Re: SMTP mail sent time

Russ Carraro — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:31:50 GMT

Thanks Wim,

Didn't find anything helpful. I've tried changing all the *TZ* and *TDF* settings but nothing seems to work. I did set the system ahead one month and the date is okay. I'm going to tell the user there's nothing I can do and the problem will go away starting 6-April.

Re: SMTP mail sent time

Hoff — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:16:28 GMT

If you want to roll your own TZ ECO:

http://64.223.189.234/node/72
http://64.223.189.234/node/148

Re: SMTP mail sent time

Russ Carraro — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:53:35 GMT

Thanks Hoff,

I didn't find an answer to my "sent email" problem in the links you gave me but they did resolve a problem the user has with with a "C" application.

Re: SMTP mail sent time

Hoff — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:52:58 GMT

SMTP and the rest of TCP/IP has used the C and system TZ stuff for a while, and the C stuff needs to be set correctly to get the TZ right in a whole pile of applications.

Re: SMTP mail sent time

Hoff — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:58:41 GMT

Oh, BTW... Don't <<>>. Get your TZ definitions fixed, and then (only) use SYS$MANAGER:UTC$TIME_SETUP.COM to modify the settings.

If you try directly setting logical names, all sorts of weird stuff happens. For whatever reason, this whole area is arguably arcane, cryptic and fragile.

In some ways UTC$TIME_SETUP can (and apparently sometimes should, based on some reports around the 'net) be used to "bless" any TZ changes, too, including those arriving on your system via HP patch kits.

Re: SMTP mail sent time

Jan van den Ende — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:52:55 GMT

Russ,

remember TCPIP and the related NTP stuff came from *UX.
And although some of those ideas do have value 'per se', the implementation is, well, haphazard.
And the people that migrated that stuff to VMS were obviously given a bypass on 'normal' VMS QA.

Sad, but we will have to learn to live with it.

Proost.

Have one on me.

jpe

Re: SMTP mail sent time

Russ Carraro — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:40:23 GMT

Thanks for all the replies.