topic Re: Product Install/List and lowercase ".pcsi" files in Operating System - OpenVMS

Product Install/List and lowercase ".pcsi" files

Andreas Kaempfe — Thu, 17 Jun 2004 05:17:53 GMT

Dear OpenVMS managers! After copying a PCSI-File to a ODS5 disk with a ".pcsi" extension I could not see this file with "$PRODUCT LIST *" or "PRODUCT INSTALL *". After I renamed it to "*.PCSI" the Product Installer worked fine and saw all the files. This happend on a OpenVMS 7.3-2 system, ODS5 disk and PCSI V0100 patch installed! So please take care with copying or renaming *.PCSI files on ODS5 disks!

Re: Product Install/List and lowercase ".pcsi" files

Anton van Ruitenbeek — Thu, 17 Jun 2004 05:25:24 GMT

Andreas,

Did you do also $ SET PROCESS/CASE_LOOKUP=SENSITIVE ?
I Wouldn't do this !
This can solve a lot of problems.

AvR

Re: Product Install/List and lowercase ".pcsi" files

Lokesh_2 — Thu, 17 Jun 2004 05:35:45 GMT

Hi ,

As Anton pointed, give the following command and your product install will work.

$set process /case_lookup=blind.

I am attahing the relevant portion from online help:

************************************
SET

PROCESS

/CASE_LOOKUP

/CASE_LOOKUP=keyword

The valid keywords for this qualifier are BLIND and SENSITIVE.

Compaq strongly recommends that you use caution when enabling
case sensitivity.

Refer to the OpenVMS Alpha Version 7.3-1 New Features and
Documentation Overview for information on using this qualifier.
********************************

HTH,
Thanks & regards,
Lokesh Jain

Re: Product Install/List and lowercase ".pcsi" files

Brian Reiter — Thu, 17 Jun 2004 05:38:26 GMT

Had similar issues with unzip. HP UK assure me its going to get fixed.

Re: Product Install/List and lowercase ".pcsi" files

Brian Reiter — Thu, 17 Jun 2004 07:18:41 GMT

Should clarify that PCSI only seems to work with uppercase file names - the settings for case (blind or sensitive) don't seem to make any difference. We always run case=blind and hit the PCSI problems.

cheers

Brian

Re: Product Install/List and lowercase ".pcsi" files

Kris Clippeleyr — Thu, 17 Jun 2004 08:16:33 GMT

Andreas, Brian,

This is definitely a bug.
Even if you have .PCSI files with the extension in uppercase, but the file name in either lowercase or mixed case, the PRODUCT LIST command cannot find the files.
And SET PROCESS/PARSE nor SET PROCESS/CASE change anything.

Someone better notify engineering, so they can come up with a fix.

Kris

Re: Product Install/List and lowercase ".pcsi" files

Craig A Berry — Thu, 17 Jun 2004 08:53:18 GMT

This one's been kicking around for a while. See

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/asktima/operating_systems/CTI_SRC040128002091.html

It sounds like they may still not have it quite fixed yet.

Re: Product Install/List and lowercase ".pcsi" files

Martin P.J. Zinser — Thu, 17 Jun 2004 20:40:17 GMT

Hello Brian,

what problem with UnZip do you refer to? I use it with ODS-5 disks all the time without issues (maybe I'm just lucky). And sorry, I doubt that hp is working on a fix. They are not really involved with Info-Zip.

Greetings, Martin

Re: Product Install/List and lowercase ".pcsi" files

Brian Reiter — Fri, 18 Jun 2004 02:04:20 GMT

Martin,

It could have been an older version of unzip. I was unclear on the first post - HP UK assure me that the PCSI problems are going to get fixed.

I find it slightly annoying having to rename files to upper case to ensure that some packages accept them.

cheers

Brian

Re: Product Install/List and lowercase ".pcsi" files

Jan van den Ende — Fri, 18 Jun 2004 02:34:07 GMT

Brian,

I could even live with "some packages " if only their user guides would clarify,
but a _UTILITY_, yes, a _VMS_ ustility, intended to _MAINTAIN_ the OS (isn't that what patches are supposed to be doing?), __THAT__ should really be OS compliant for named OS, shouldn't it?

Personally, I absolutely rank this 'feature' as a "__B__U__G__"

Jan

Re: Product Install/List and lowercase ".pcsi" files

Willem Grooters — Fri, 18 Jun 2004 03:18:44 GMT

Jan,

It's IS a bug - confirmed by engeneering....

Andreas (and others):
In the meantime, to be sure to overcome the limitation, you could use attached procedure to overcome it (rename first...)

Willem

Re: Product Install/List and lowercase ".pcsi" files

Andreas Kaempfe — Fri, 18 Jun 2004 03:22:58 GMT

by the way I found out that lowercase characters in the first part of the PCSI file name are accepted. "dec-axpvms- .PCSI" will work. Only the file extension forces this BUG!