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    <title>topic Re: indexf.sys question in Operating System - OpenVMS</title>
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    <description>No you can not trim INDEXF.SYS. Not officially.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; i understand, indexf.sys file holds the file header of files on disk.&lt;BR /&gt;one slot for every file on disk.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Correct. At least one. Could be more due to fragmentation and/or excessive ACL's.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Best/official way to do this is INIT an other disk with the desired attirbutes : /HEAD=&lt;SMALLER&gt;/MAX=&lt;LARGE&gt; ...&lt;BR /&gt;Next BACK/NOINIT/IMAGE ...&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Or roll out, init, roll back.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;But is this really such a big deal?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;How much over-allocated is it in your case?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Good luck,&lt;BR /&gt;Hein&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/LARGE&gt;&lt;/SMALLER&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:35:09 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Hein van den Heuvel</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-10-02T15:35:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>indexf.sys question</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/indexf-sys-question/m-p/5257541#M27571</link>
      <description>good morning,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;i understand, indexf.sys file holds the file header of files on disk.&lt;BR /&gt;one slot for every file on disk.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;if i have only few files on my disk then,&lt;BR /&gt;indexf.sys holds on to empty slots&lt;BR /&gt;or&lt;BR /&gt;indexf.sys releases the free slots back to the system?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;once indexf.sys file is created on disk, can its size shrink due to any&lt;BR /&gt;operation?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;i hear DFU can be used to compress directory, is there any tool to compress&lt;BR /&gt;indexf.sys?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Scotty</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:22:23 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Scotty HD</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-10-02T15:22:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: indexf.sys question</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/indexf-sys-question/m-p/5257542#M27572</link>
      <description>No you can not trim INDEXF.SYS. Not officially.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; i understand, indexf.sys file holds the file header of files on disk.&lt;BR /&gt;one slot for every file on disk.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Correct. At least one. Could be more due to fragmentation and/or excessive ACL's.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Best/official way to do this is INIT an other disk with the desired attirbutes : /HEAD=&lt;SMALLER&gt;/MAX=&lt;LARGE&gt; ...&lt;BR /&gt;Next BACK/NOINIT/IMAGE ...&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Or roll out, init, roll back.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;But is this really such a big deal?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;How much over-allocated is it in your case?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Good luck,&lt;BR /&gt;Hein&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/LARGE&gt;&lt;/SMALLER&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:35:09 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Hein van den Heuvel</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-10-02T15:35:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: indexf.sys question</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/indexf-sys-question/m-p/5257543#M27573</link>
      <description>&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Actually... DFU ( 3.2 ) _does_ have a command to truncate INDEXF.SYS, for an unmounted disk.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Hein&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;DFU&amp;gt; HELP INDEXF&lt;BR /&gt;:&lt;BR /&gt;"The INDEXF command is used to analyze ,defragment ,truncate or extend the INDEXF.SYS file.&lt;BR /&gt;The analyze option reports the current fragmentation state, whereas the defragment and extend option allows defragmentation or pre-extending of INDEXF.SYS. Truncate is an option which trims down INDEXF.SYS to the end-of-file size.&lt;BR /&gt;    To perform a defragment truncate or extend operation the disk must be completely dismounted.&lt;BR /&gt;    NOTE: defragment truncate and extend require VOLPRO privilege.&lt;BR /&gt;        : defragment truncate and extend can not be done on the system disk.&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:46:18 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Hein van den Heuvel</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-10-02T15:46:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: indexf.sys question</title>
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      <description>Scotty,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I am in wholehearted agreement with Hein. Each file on the disk has AT LEAST ONE header. Depending on how many extents a file has, it can have quite a few headers. This is particularly true for files that are routinely appended to (e.g., transaction logs). The number of headers can be seen using the DUMP/HEADER command. To be precise, I recommend DUMP/HEADER/BLOCK=(START:0,END:0) or DUMP/HEADER/BLOCK=COUNT:0.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I generally recommend against trimming INDEX.SYS. There are limits to extending INDEXF.SYS, and I have seen far too many cases where extends were limited by fragmentation, the header for INDEXF.SYS itself can become filled, which is a far more serious problem to deal with. With today's mass storage capacities, INDEXF.SYS is generally not a problem.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;- Bob Gezelter, &lt;A href="http://www.rlgsc.com" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.rlgsc.com&lt;/A&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 22:04:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Robert Gezelter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-10-02T22:04:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: indexf.sys question</title>
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      <description>thanks everyone for help&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Scotty</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:05:25 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Scotty HD</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-11-16T13:05:25Z</dc:date>
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