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    <title>topic Re: OpenVMS 8.4 (update 7), rx2800i2,  p411 and StorageWorks d2700 in Operating System - OpenVMS</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Of course, "cache disabled" is not desired configuration.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How to enable it? And why is it not enabled automatically when present?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;PS: I agree that two SAS PCIe cards are needed for correct "dual domain" operation.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 10:27:28 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>fhsjvl</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-03-11T10:27:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>OpenVMS 8.4 (update 7), rx2800i2,  p411 and StorageWorks d2700</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/openvms-8-4-update-7-rx2800i2-p411-and-storageworks-d2700/m-p/5979245#M28486</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi all,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;we have an rx2800i2 Itanium box with OpenVMS update 7, a p411 controller card (RAID mode operated, no battery), connected to a d2700 external box.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Given that p411 has 2 connection and the p2700 has 2 I/O module, is a dual-path configuration&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;supported with all these stuff?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks a lot in advance.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Giovanni&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 13:38:35 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>gmalacrida</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-02-28T13:38:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OpenVMS 8.4 (update 7), rx2800i2,  p411 and StorageWorks d2700</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/openvms-8-4-update-7-rx2800i2-p411-and-storageworks-d2700/m-p/5981309#M28491</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You may link the&lt;EM&gt; P411&lt;/EM&gt; with the&lt;EM&gt; D2600/D2700&lt;/EM&gt; disk enclosures using only a "&lt;EM&gt;Single-domain&lt;/EM&gt;” layout because the&lt;EM&gt; P411&lt;/EM&gt; SAS controller for the Integrity platform (&lt;EM&gt;Hp&amp;nbsp;part number&amp;nbsp;AM311A&lt;/EM&gt;) doesn't support the “Battery and Backed Write Cache” option.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For this class of raid controllers, the “&lt;EM&gt;Dual-domain&lt;/EM&gt;” support is activated by installing the &lt;EM&gt;SAAP&lt;/EM&gt; (Smart Array Advanced Pack). &lt;U&gt;Smart Array Advanced Pack (&lt;EM&gt;SAAP&lt;/EM&gt;) is hosted on the Smart Array Controller hardware and can be enabled only on those controllers with a Battery Backed Write Cache (BBWC) module or a Flash Backed Write Cache (&lt;EM&gt;FBWC&lt;/EM&gt;) module.&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For instance, the Smart Array &lt;EM&gt;P812&lt;/EM&gt; ships standard with the features contained in the Smart Array Advanced Pack &amp;nbsp;(&lt;EM&gt;Hp Integrity part number AM312A&lt;/EM&gt; – &lt;U&gt;it includes 1Gb FBWC&lt;/U&gt;). This means the &lt;EM&gt;P812&lt;/EM&gt;&amp;nbsp; + &lt;EM&gt;D2600/D2700&lt;/EM&gt;&amp;nbsp; can be assembled&amp;nbsp;in a "&lt;EM&gt;Dual-domain&lt;/EM&gt;” layout. This configuration is fully supported starting&amp;nbsp;form the OpenVMS I64 V8.4 Update 6.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Btw, few months ago HP has announced the release of SMART Array firmware 5.78b0 for &lt;EM&gt;P411&lt;/EM&gt; that enables support for &lt;EM&gt;Multi-Initiator&lt;/EM&gt; to be used with HBA mode and OpenVMS I64 V8.4 Update 700.&amp;nbsp; This allows a new small cluster configuration of two HP Integrity&lt;EM&gt; rx2800 i2&lt;/EM&gt; servers with &lt;EM&gt;P411&lt;/EM&gt; interface cards sharing a &lt;EM&gt;DS2600&lt;/EM&gt; or &lt;EM&gt;DS2700&lt;/EM&gt; storage shelf.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;SAS&amp;nbsp;Terminology :&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Single-domain configuration&lt;/EM&gt; - &lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;one cable path is created between the sas controller, the primary disk enclosure, and additional cascaded disk enclosures&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Dual-domain configuration&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;/EM&gt;-&amp;nbsp;two cable paths are created between the sas controller, the primary disk enclosure, and additional cascaded disk enclosures. &lt;EM&gt;Dual-domain&lt;/EM&gt; SAS Configuration creates redundant pathways from servers to storage devices&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Multi-Initiator &lt;/EM&gt;- &lt;/STRONG&gt;in the SAS arena refers to connecting multiple controllers to a common set of disk expansion drawers for the purpose of increasing availability&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 16:22:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/openvms-8-4-update-7-rx2800i2-p411-and-storageworks-d2700/m-p/5981309#M28491</guid>
      <dc:creator>Maurizio De Tommaso_</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-03-03T16:22:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OpenVMS 8.4 (update 7), rx2800i2,  p411 and StorageWorks d2700</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/openvms-8-4-update-7-rx2800i2-p411-and-storageworks-d2700/m-p/5982957#M28492</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Is it possible to elaborate on the exact configuration of SAAP?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have tested a configuration but it did not work as I expected.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My configuration is:&lt;BR /&gt;- rx28000 i2 with OpenVMS I64 V8.4 including UPDATE V7 patch kit,&lt;BR /&gt;- iLO FW 1.53.02,&lt;BR /&gt;- System FW 1.80,&lt;BR /&gt;- p812 (AM312A) PCIe controller with FW 5.78 build 0, in first slot (full length) of primary I/O riser, card has cache and battery,&lt;BR /&gt;- AW526A = D2700 + 25x 500GB disks, has two I/O modules,&lt;BR /&gt;- first cable from Port 1e on p812 to port P1 of I/O module A on D2700,&lt;BR /&gt;- second cable from Port 2e on p812 to port P1 of I/O module B on D2700.&lt;BR /&gt;- Output of MSA$UTILS gives:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;MSA&amp;gt; sho contr pkd&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;A default controller is not set. All matching controllers displayed&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;Adapter: _PKD0:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;P812 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (c) HP &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; PAGXQ0BRH1Q0LY Software 5.78&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Port Address: 50014380-182df170&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;Supported Redundancy Mode: Dual Domain.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Dual Domain Mode: Dual Domain (Active-Standby with Failover).&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;Cache:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;912 megabyte read/write cache&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Cache is disabled and Cache is not configured.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;No unflushed data in cache.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;Battery:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Battery is fully charged.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;Controller Mode:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Controller is in RAID Mode.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;MSA&amp;gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When I remove the first&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;cable, I/O activity continues. When I remove the second cable as well, all I/O activity obviously stalls.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When I insert the first cable again, I/O remains dead and this remains so when I reconnect the second cable as well.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Similar tests with (old) SCSI connections and with FC connections are able to withstand such disaster scenario (removal of&lt;BR /&gt;both paths at the same moment). Why cannot my SAS configuration handle this? I use OpenVMS, so I want this to work fine.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:31:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>fhsjvl</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-03-04T14:31:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OpenVMS 8.4 (update 7), rx2800i2,  p411 and StorageWorks d2700</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/openvms-8-4-update-7-rx2800i2-p411-and-storageworks-d2700/m-p/5983139#M28493</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Similar tests with (old) SCSI connections and with FC connections are able to withstand such disaster scenario (removal of both paths at the same moment).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Honestly, i believe that your scenario was never supported by the OpenVMS architecture.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If necessary, please&amp;nbsp;contact your&amp;nbsp;local Hp support and ask them about this point.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;it is my opinion that OpenVMS Shadowing (HBVS)&amp;nbsp;+ two SAS disk shelfs + two P812 SAS controllers (properly configured) are the correct design to survive in case of loss of both SAS cables/paths linked to the same "storage box".&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The SAS "Dual-domain" design can tolerate &lt;U&gt;exclusively the loss of one cable/path&lt;/U&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To test&amp;nbsp;the SAS "Dual-domain" functionality , the correct steps are&amp;nbsp; :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(your configuration = one P812 + one D2700 with two I/O modules + two SAS cables)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;disconnect one SAS cable; verify the correct access to volumes from OpenVMS side.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;reconnect the SAS cable, wait 10 seconds&amp;nbsp;and disconnect the other one; verify the correct access to volumes from OpenVMS side.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;reconnect the SAS cable&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;P&gt;SAAP functionality is standard on the HP Smart Array P812 controller, as confirmed by the command output "msa$util show controller PKD"&amp;nbsp; :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;Supported Redundancy Mode: Dual Domain.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Dual Domain Mode: Dual Domain (Active-Standby with Failover).&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You have to take a look at the P812 controller cache setting :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;Cache:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;912 megabyte read/write cache&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;FONT color="#ff0000"&gt;Cache is disabled and Cache is not configured.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;No unflushed data in cache.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;Battery:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Battery is fully charged.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is this the desired configuration ? Without the appropriate read/write cache configuration,&amp;nbsp;the performance of the P812 will be very poor.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 07:03:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/openvms-8-4-update-7-rx2800i2-p411-and-storageworks-d2700/m-p/5983139#M28493</guid>
      <dc:creator>Maurizio De Tommaso_</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-03-05T07:03:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: OpenVMS 8.4 (update 7), rx2800i2,  p411 and StorageWorks d2700</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/openvms-8-4-update-7-rx2800i2-p411-and-storageworks-d2700/m-p/5990583#M28506</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Of course, "cache disabled" is not desired configuration.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How to enable it? And why is it not enabled automatically when present?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;PS: I agree that two SAS PCIe cards are needed for correct "dual domain" operation.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 10:27:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/openvms-8-4-update-7-rx2800i2-p411-and-storageworks-d2700/m-p/5990583#M28506</guid>
      <dc:creator>fhsjvl</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-03-11T10:27:28Z</dc:date>
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