topic Re: Thanks again, Guy! in Operating System - OpenVMS

Thanks again, Guy!

Jan van den Ende — Sat, 11 Dec 2004 08:03:24 GMT

Hi all,

check this out:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/browse_thread/thread/ef1f0f81acab781a/5fc655d392b6e736#5fc655d392b6e736

I think it's great, and I DO second the backporting suggestion!

Proost.

Have one on me.

Jan

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Uwe Zessin — Sun, 12 Dec 2004 14:53:27 GMT

Amazing. I still remember the DECUS Europe session in 1988, wenn the SIRs (System Improvement Requests) were discussed with DEC.

One request was to enhance BACKUP with a CONTROL-T output. The VMS people were not very receptive to this idea, but wrote it down. Apparently, they were more eager to get us all to migrate to VAX/VMS V5.0 ;-)

Well, I was quite surprised to see the enhancement some time later (V5.2, together with the BACKUP 'rewrite', if I remember correctly).

And SEARCH got a similar improvement (V6.1?).

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Bojan Nemec — Mon, 13 Dec 2004 03:09:55 GMT

Thats great,

No more procedures and programs that spit tons of output lines, only to see the progress. And probably defining a logical name is much faster than writing to a terminal or log file.

Bojan

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Kris Clippeleyr — Mon, 13 Dec 2004 03:15:18 GMT

Indeed a very useful improvement. I certainly gonna make use of it.

As Jan said: thank you very much, Guy.

Kris (aka Qkcl)

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Jan van den Ende — Mon, 13 Dec 2004 04:59:03 GMT

Bojan,

it is not even a Logical name, it is a SYMBOL!
And read the example in some detail, and you will see WHY: a local symbol can be defined differently at EACH execution level, and ^T will show the values of ALL levels!

Proost.

Have one on me.

Jan

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Bojan Nemec — Mon, 13 Dec 2004 05:08:31 GMT

Jan,

You are right (I read the link two hours before posting and early hours do strange things :-). Anyway its a great tool!

Bojan

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Willem Grooters — Mon, 13 Dec 2004 06:22:09 GMT

Good thing, both the devlopment itself AND the backport: Just show what you want to see.
I'vre read the thread in comp.os.vms (thanks Jan for attending us), I like the idea tha David Dachtera putted: make it a bitmask. Hopefully, Guy reads this forum as well since I would like to reserve a few bits for "custom use", which can be usefull in debugging (non-DCL) code (Show me some specified data on ^T)

Willem

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Guy Peleg — Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:38:19 GMT

I follow this thread as well.

Thank you all for your feedback.

Guy

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

John Yu_1 — Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:11:10 GMT

Cool, something else to amaze the junior progs in my group ;-P

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Jan van den Ende — Tue, 14 Dec 2004 02:38:06 GMT

Guy,

may I bring this thread under your attention as well?

http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=760599

TIA.

Proost.

Have one on me.

Jan

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Jan van den Ende — Tue, 14 Dec 2004 02:47:18 GMT

Guy, another one:

http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=716858

(Like they say in Dutch: "Give them a finger, and the will eat your whole hand" :-)

And again, many thanks in advance for all you are doing!

Proost.

Have one on me.

Jan

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Antoniov. — Tue, 14 Dec 2004 03:30:26 GMT

Hello,
User informations by ctrl-t is a great idea!
I'd like some other feature.
- Sometimes might be usefull disable system message.
- In DCL, be able to catch ctrl-t same as ctrl-y; for example ON CONTROL_T THEN ...
I'd like disable "cancel" message after ctrl-y and or ctrl-c.

Antonio Vigliotti

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Anton van Ruitenbeek — Tue, 14 Dec 2004 08:00:55 GMT

Guy,

Many thanks for another useful feature .

As far as we know, you are listening and executing wat we ask. A lot of other college want to add our questions but are hold back by the financial guys. You know how to get around these people, keep this up and going.
We looking forward to the next fine implementation .

AvR

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Cass Witkowski — Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:41:36 GMT

Guy,

Will you be able to port this to V7.3-2? It may be a while till we get up to 8.2

Thanks

Cass

Re: Thanks again, Guy!

Guy Peleg — Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:19:36 GMT

I need to get internal approval to backport
this to V7.3-2. V8.2 might be easier. My
plan was to try both V7.3-2 and V8.2

More to come soon.

Happy Holidays.

Guy