topic Re: JBOSS under OpenVMS 7-3-2 in Operating System - OpenVMS

JBOSS under OpenVMS 7-3-2

Brian Reiter — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 04:40:43 GMT

Hi Folks,

Does anybody have any experience getting JBoss running under OpenVMS. Is it feasible to get it running under 7-3-2 or does it need 8-3? I know there was an article posted on OpenVMS.ORG some time ago, a colleague has followed this and has not had too much luck.

Thanks

Brian

Re: JBOSS under OpenVMS 7-3-2

Dean McGorrill — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:47:02 GMT

hi Brian,
I found this ref, not sure if it would work on 7.3-2 Dean

http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=OpenVMSHints

Re: JBOSS under OpenVMS 7-3-2

Cindy Railey_1 — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:44:12 GMT

We have JBoss installed on Integrity Servers running OpenVMS v8.3 If I remember correctly JBoss will not run on Alpha.

I'm attaching draft version of the install procedures which outlines the pre-requisites.

Re: JBOSS under OpenVMS 7-3-2

Brian Reiter — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:00:16 GMT

Aaah, the missing pieces of the puzzle (I hope). Is there a good reason why it won't work on Alpha? Or is it lack of testing?

Re: JBOSS under OpenVMS 7-3-2

Brian Reiter — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 04:11:45 GMT

OK, so the only downside is that I can't access the JBoss OpenVMS supplemental JAR file. :( (the URL starts off with http://peseta.zko.hp.com/ which I assume is HOP internal).

Is there another source of this file somewhere?

Re: JBOSS under OpenVMS 7-3-2

Willem Grooters — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:00:34 GMT

That's an surely an internal link...

JBoss is "pure java" , or am I mistaken? According the Java marketeers that would mean it _should_ run anywhere, regardless the hardware. Whether the performance is acceptable is another matter. It might run on Alpha but require BIG memory (like on Itanium) and still have a lousy performance ;).

Re: JBOSS under OpenVMS 7-3-2

Brian Reiter — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:10:45 GMT

I'm beginning to suspect that there is no such thing as pure Java and that regardless of operating system you still need to mumble the required set of magical incantations to get the damn thing off the ground.

Re: JBOSS under OpenVMS 7-3-2

Cindy Railey_1 — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:54:11 GMT

It probably just hasn't been tested on Alpha. The documentation came to me from our development group, I'm not sure how they got their hands on it.

I still have a copy of the supplemental jar and have attached it.

there is definitely some magic to getting JBoss installed on VMS. It was quite a learning experience for me.

What I can tell you - is you need to be sure you following the instructions very carefully -
- files are case-sensitive, so be sure to always >set proc/parse=extend
- use the examples in the guide for renaming zip files exactly as documented.
- remember to set the file attributes
- If you are passing a lowercase parameter you must always enclose it in quotes because DCL will convert it to uppercase otherwise.

I cannot talk about performance yet. Still in preliminary testing etc..

Hope this helps...

Re: JBOSS under OpenVMS 7-3-2

Willem Grooters — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 04:54:38 GMT

Not just PARSE_STYLE. There is a whole bunch of (mainly CRTL (DECC$*)) logicals that control the way that VMS handles filenames.
It's all in the java documnetation (on line found at http://h18012.www1.hp.com/java/documentation/1.5.0/ovms/docs/user_guide.html.

Re: JBOSS under OpenVMS 7-3-2

Brian Reiter — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:20:39 GMT

Luckily the requirements for JBoss are described in some detail in the PDF. To be honest the whole thing still seems like some form of black magic.

Re: JBOSS under OpenVMS 7-3-2

Addie Zwakhals — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 05:31:25 GMT

We have installed Jboss 4.2.1 on openvms V7.3-2 based on the suggestions and pdf document in this thread.
We can start a Jboss server, which uses 127.0.0.1 as base address for the server.
But we want to connect to the web-console using the Ip-adress of the VMs server where the jboss server runs.

In Jboss documentation it say use:
run -b .

How can we use this command on VMS using run.com.

Re: JBOSS under OpenVMS 7-3-2

Addie Zwakhals — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:42:56 GMT

I've managed to start the jboss server with the ip-address of the VMS server.
In the run.com the JAVA command must be extended with -b

Re: JBOSS under OpenVMS 7-3-2

Brian Reiter — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:32:01 GMT

Now thats handy to know.

Re: JBOSS under OpenVMS 7-3-2

Geoff Gibson — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:42:39 GMT

Does anyone have the OpenVMS Supplementary JAR file? For some reason I can't download it from http://peseta.zko.hp.com/jboss_info/jboss_openvms_supp.jar

Thanks
Geoff

Re: JBOSS under OpenVMS 7-3-2

John Egolf — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:23:37 GMT

If you want the supplemental jar file, send me a note (john.egolf@digital.com).

We have only tested JBoss on OpenVMS Integrity. Previous notes are correct, Java is Java but like many very intense Java applications, its possible that a patch may be required in Java or OpenVMS or some other piece of code.

Our focus is Integrity and this is where we have spent our time testing. Anybody is welcome to try JBoss on Alpha but don't expect support in any form - we just don't have the cycles.

/John

Re: JBOSS under OpenVMS 7-3-2

Richard J Maher — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:22:16 GMT

Hi John,

Maybe you can borrow some resources from HP's gSOAP port to Itanium *and* Alpha? They seem to have heaps of spare capacity: -

Looks like HP VMS is moving away from Java altogether; is 1.5 the last Java on VMS?

http://johndapps.blogspot.com/

Cheers Richard Maher