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    <title>topic Java dependency in OpenVMS 8.3 in Operating System - OpenVMS</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/java-dependency-in-openvms-8-3/m-p/4473883#M42637</link>
    <description>We are in the process of upgrading to OpenVMS 8.3 from 7.3-2 (for Alpha).  Our Dept. of Defense security guys go berserk over Java because they cannot abide by "mobile code" platforms.  I will avoid casting aspersions regarding paranoia at this time, because it does no good.  Water off a duck's back and all that.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;So the DoD security gurus have essentially told me that the version of Java that we had on VMS 7.3-2 (which was Java 1.2-23) is no longer allowed on our systems.  MUST be removed completely.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;We are NOT web-enabled, either way you might considered it.  I.e. we don't run the Web Server and we do not run a public version of DECwindows, so nobody has an X screen or any VMS-based browser.  This also means no WEBES and no other obvious things that could be at least intermittantly and/or temporarily web-enabled on the system.  Our system is more batch-oriented and character-cell-graphic menu driven than anything else.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;So my question is, if we are not running any of our applications code under Java and we are not running Web-enabled, in or out, is there any part of the OpenVMS O/S that still needs Java?  I just said I know of nothing obvious, but what bothers me is the less-than-obvious cases that crop up sometimes.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I want to remove Java but before I do, I thought it might be wise to know if I'm going to trip over a "gotcha" somewhere under obscure OpenVMS 8.3 operations.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;By the way, if I can get away with it, I will not install the newer version of Java (I think 1.5-something, JDK 3.0) from the e-Business kit.  I want to get to a system that has no Java at all if that is possible.&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:26:09 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Richard W Hunt</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-08-05T13:26:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Java dependency in OpenVMS 8.3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/java-dependency-in-openvms-8-3/m-p/4473883#M42637</link>
      <description>We are in the process of upgrading to OpenVMS 8.3 from 7.3-2 (for Alpha).  Our Dept. of Defense security guys go berserk over Java because they cannot abide by "mobile code" platforms.  I will avoid casting aspersions regarding paranoia at this time, because it does no good.  Water off a duck's back and all that.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;So the DoD security gurus have essentially told me that the version of Java that we had on VMS 7.3-2 (which was Java 1.2-23) is no longer allowed on our systems.  MUST be removed completely.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;We are NOT web-enabled, either way you might considered it.  I.e. we don't run the Web Server and we do not run a public version of DECwindows, so nobody has an X screen or any VMS-based browser.  This also means no WEBES and no other obvious things that could be at least intermittantly and/or temporarily web-enabled on the system.  Our system is more batch-oriented and character-cell-graphic menu driven than anything else.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;So my question is, if we are not running any of our applications code under Java and we are not running Web-enabled, in or out, is there any part of the OpenVMS O/S that still needs Java?  I just said I know of nothing obvious, but what bothers me is the less-than-obvious cases that crop up sometimes.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I want to remove Java but before I do, I thought it might be wise to know if I'm going to trip over a "gotcha" somewhere under obscure OpenVMS 8.3 operations.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;By the way, if I can get away with it, I will not install the newer version of Java (I think 1.5-something, JDK 3.0) from the e-Business kit.  I want to get to a system that has no Java at all if that is possible.&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:26:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/java-dependency-in-openvms-8-3/m-p/4473883#M42637</guid>
      <dc:creator>Richard W Hunt</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-08-05T13:26:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Java dependency in OpenVMS 8.3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/java-dependency-in-openvms-8-3/m-p/4473884#M42638</link>
      <description>I think you covered your bases.&lt;BR /&gt;Core OpenVMS does not need Java.&lt;BR /&gt;Rename and reboot to verify?&lt;BR /&gt;fwiw,&lt;BR /&gt;Hein&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:44:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/java-dependency-in-openvms-8-3/m-p/4473884#M42638</guid>
      <dc:creator>Hein van den Heuvel</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-08-05T13:44:03Z</dc:date>
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