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    <title>topic Re: BMC is competitor and my view of the two alternatives in Operating System - OpenVMS</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bmc-is-competitor-and-my-view-of-the-two-alternatives/m-p/3197477#M46948</link>
    <description>Willem,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;According to my knowledge the native agent is built on several separate products/projects. An OpenView Unix agent (I suppose it is the True64 agent but I am not sure) that is ported to OpenVMS by using GNV (GNU's Not VMS) and the old Cockpit Mgr from the Compaq Consulting in Holland have been put together.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;More information about the different components could be found on,&lt;BR /&gt;(GNV) &lt;A href="http://gnv.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank"&gt;http://gnv.sourceforge.net/&lt;/A&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;(Cockpit) &lt;A href="http://212.190.77.82/cockpitmgr/CockpitMgr%20V6.1.pps" target="_blank"&gt;http://212.190.77.82/cockpitmgr/CockpitMgr%20V6.1.pps&lt;/A&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;(Unix) as it would take more than a day for me to find the Unix agent on the HP site it is up to you to find a appropriate URL.  Maybe someone from HP could give us a hint?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Unfortunately this quick and dirty approach gives you several limitations and dependencies on an open source project GNV. However, by combining the three products and look at the lowest common denominator you will find the â  nativeâ   agent specifications. Make sense doesnâ  t it?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Reg</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:41:42 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Ola_10</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2004-02-22T09:41:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>BMC is competitor and my view of the two alternatives</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bmc-is-competitor-and-my-view-of-the-two-alternatives/m-p/3197473#M46944</link>
      <description>BMC Patrol is a competitor to HP (HP have not acquired Patrol).&lt;BR /&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;If you have a homogeneous environment (read OpenVMS 7.3.1 and later 7.3.2) you could use the HP Native agent. If you have heterogeneous environment (OpenVMS 6 and above on VAX, Alpha and Itanuim) you could use AppMind that is an OpenView certified agent. During a transition phase from Patrol to OpenView you preferably use AppMind as it also supports Patrol.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Also, if you look at performance metrics, the native agent doen't do this and the Appmind agent does.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Regards,&lt;BR /&gt;Jens - In transition phase :o)</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2004 04:29:48 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Jens Mårtensson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-02-20T04:29:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: BMC is competitor and my view of the two alternatives</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bmc-is-competitor-and-my-view-of-the-two-alternatives/m-p/3197474#M46945</link>
      <description>HOLD ON!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;One often forgotton System Management tool - owned and developed by HP is Cockpit Manager.&lt;BR /&gt;It's VMS looking at VMS (in the first place), clusterwide. I don't know it';s status, but definitely it WILL be on Itanium.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thought about that?</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2004 06:27:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Willem Grooters</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-02-20T06:27:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: BMC is competitor and my view of the two alternatives</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bmc-is-competitor-and-my-view-of-the-two-alternatives/m-p/3197475#M46946</link>
      <description>Sorry, posted my reply to another thread into a new thread. My mistake...</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2004 06:56:08 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Jens Mårtensson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-02-20T06:56:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: BMC is competitor and my view of the two alternatives</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bmc-is-competitor-and-my-view-of-the-two-alternatives/m-p/3197476#M46947</link>
      <description>Hello Jens,&lt;BR /&gt;you can send e-mail to HP so they can delete this thread.&lt;BR /&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;Bye&lt;BR /&gt;Antoniov&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:27:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Antoniov.</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-02-20T09:27:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: BMC is competitor and my view of the two alternatives</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bmc-is-competitor-and-my-view-of-the-two-alternatives/m-p/3197477#M46948</link>
      <description>Willem,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;According to my knowledge the native agent is built on several separate products/projects. An OpenView Unix agent (I suppose it is the True64 agent but I am not sure) that is ported to OpenVMS by using GNV (GNU's Not VMS) and the old Cockpit Mgr from the Compaq Consulting in Holland have been put together.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;More information about the different components could be found on,&lt;BR /&gt;(GNV) &lt;A href="http://gnv.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank"&gt;http://gnv.sourceforge.net/&lt;/A&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;(Cockpit) &lt;A href="http://212.190.77.82/cockpitmgr/CockpitMgr%20V6.1.pps" target="_blank"&gt;http://212.190.77.82/cockpitmgr/CockpitMgr%20V6.1.pps&lt;/A&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;(Unix) as it would take more than a day for me to find the Unix agent on the HP site it is up to you to find a appropriate URL.  Maybe someone from HP could give us a hint?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Unfortunately this quick and dirty approach gives you several limitations and dependencies on an open source project GNV. However, by combining the three products and look at the lowest common denominator you will find the â  nativeâ   agent specifications. Make sense doesnâ  t it?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Reg</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:41:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bmc-is-competitor-and-my-view-of-the-two-alternatives/m-p/3197477#M46948</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ola_10</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-02-22T09:41:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: BMC is competitor and my view of the two alternatives</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bmc-is-competitor-and-my-view-of-the-two-alternatives/m-p/3197478#M46949</link>
      <description>Willem,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;According to my knowledge the native agent is built on several separate products/projects. An OpenView Unix agent (I suppose it is the True64 agent but I am not sure) that is ported to OpenVMS by using GNV (GNU's Not VMS) and the old Cockpit Mgr from the Compaq Consulting in Holland have been put together.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;More information about the different components could be found on,&lt;BR /&gt;(GNV) &lt;A href="http://gnv.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank"&gt;http://gnv.sourceforge.net/&lt;/A&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;(Cockpit) &lt;A href="http://212.190.77.82/cockpitmgr/CockpitMgr%20V6.1.pps" target="_blank"&gt;http://212.190.77.82/cockpitmgr/CockpitMgr%20V6.1.pps&lt;/A&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;(Unix) as it would take more than a day for me to find the Unix agent on the HP site it is up to you to find a appropriate URL.  Maybe someone from HP could give us a hint?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Unfortunately this quick and dirty approach gives you several limitations and dependencies on an open source project GNV. However, by combining the three products and look at the lowest common denominator you will find the â  nativeâ   agent specifications. Make sense doesnâ  t it?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Reg</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:41:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bmc-is-competitor-and-my-view-of-the-two-alternatives/m-p/3197478#M46949</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ola_10</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-02-22T09:41:49Z</dc:date>
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