topic Re: Advanced Server 7.2A in Operating System - OpenVMS

Advanced Server 7.2A

Gerry Downey — Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:48:05 GMT

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'll try anyway. Does anyone know if Advanced Server V7.2A will work in a W2K domain? We dont want to upgrade to V7.3A as that means buying 50 V7.3A licenses.

Thanks

Re: Advanced Server 7.2A

Kris Clippeleyr — Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:52:11 GMT

Gerry,

AFAIK it kinda works (tried it as member of the domain, not as BDC or PDC).
But you really should consider installing V7.3A (latest ECO), since that contains a whole lot of bugfixes.

Greetz,

Kris (aka Qkcl)

Re: Advanced Server 7.2A

Mobeen_1 — Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:58:53 GMT

Gerry,
If my memory stands good, it defintely works in a W2K domain :)

rgds
Mobeen

Re: Advanced Server 7.2A

Gerry Downey — Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:59:32 GMT

Kris, how did you get it to be a member? As far as I'm aware, the only choices are PDC or BDC.

Thanks,
Gerry

Re: Advanced Server 7.2A

Anton van Ruitenbeek — Thu, 06 Jan 2005 08:22:02 GMT

Gerry,

AS 7.2A works fine with W2K as a Member Server. During installation you get the option to be a MemberServer, BDC or PDC.
If you want to change you're role during a live domain it is easy.
Stop AS, rename PWRK$LMROOT:[LANMAN]DATAFILES.DIR to DATAFILES_OLD.DIR . The same for DOMAINS.DIR .
Start PWRK$CONFIG, add this node (cluster) in the domain as a MemberServer, do not start AS !!!
Replace PWRK$LMROOT;[LANMAN.DATAFILES]SHAREDB. with the one out of [.DATAFILES_OLD]
This is for de shares which you had on the AS nodes !
Start AS and It should work fine. Other tricks are also available !

Secondly, do you got support for AS ? If so, you get automaticly the new licences, otherwise it is possible to upgrade you're licenses !

AvR

Re: Advanced Server 7.2A

Gerry Downey — Thu, 06 Jan 2005 09:04:01 GMT

Anton,
I ran PWRK$CONFIG and selected option 6 to change the role of the server, and it only gave me the choice of PDC or BDC. Are you sure this version can operate as a member server?

Thanks,

Gerry

Re: Advanced Server 7.2A

Doug Phillips — Thu, 06 Jan 2005 12:54:54 GMT

Gerry,

AS7.2A doesn't support member server role. I have 7.2A as BD running with 2 Win2k3 servers which are in interim mode. They were Win2k not too long ago running in mixed mode.

AS7.2A has a few problems in this environment but it isn't as heavily loaded as yours. Occasionally, some of the processes (like PWRK$LMSRV) just die. I think it is a problem with the sam replication. I intend to update to 7.3A as soon as possible (fortunately, PWLMXXXCA07.03 licenses came with this system.)

So, yes it runs, but not very well and I don't know how it would handle a 50 user load. I do an almost nightly PWRESTART to compensate for some of the problems.

HTM,

-Doug

Re: Advanced Server 7.2A

Kris Clippeleyr — Fri, 07 Jan 2005 04:08:14 GMT

Gerry,

Kris, how did you get it to be a member?

Can't remember it exactly, but I think I must have configured it thus just after installation (it's been a while...)

Kris (aka Qkcl)

Re: Advanced Server 7.2A

Paul Nunez — Fri, 07 Jan 2005 07:10:03 GMT

Doug is absolutely right - no member server support in Advanced Server v7.2A (it was first included in v7.3).

Also, you won't get any engineering support for v7.2A and only best-effort support from the support centers.

A 50-user _upgrade_ license (part no. QM-5SUAA-AF) isn't all that much money (don't have the standard price in front of me but IIRC it's around $2500; but you may qualify for a discount).

Advanced Server v7.3A ECO4 was recently released and is recommended for all customers, especially those in Windows 2003 environments and/or with WinXP clients.

It's available from the ITRC FTP server:

ftp://ftp.itrc.hp.com/openvms_patches/layered_products/alpha/

Filename is ADVANCSERV-V0703-A4.PCSI... dated 14 DEC 2004.

Best of luck all,

Paul

Re: Advanced Server 7.2A

Brad McCusker — Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:58:47 GMT

Kris and Anton must be confusing V7.2A and V7.3A, or, just not remembering correctly when member server support was added. As Paul said, member server support was added to V7.3, and, that is one of the things you pay for when you buy the V7.3 licenses.

While you might get it to work, your biggest risk is that MS changes something, and suddenly it no longer works, and, sorry to say, engineering won't be able to help you.

Sorry I don't have a better answer.

Brad McCusker

Re: Advanced Server 7.2A

Jeffery D. Urmann — Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:37:40 GMT

Just an old guy reminiscing, but...

I seem to remember member server role back in Pathworks v4 or v5, maybe v6 (it`s been a long time; but I am absolutely positive). I think it vanished when Pathworks became Advance Server (again fuzzy memory). Then it reappeared in Advance Server 7.3A.

Enjoy,

--Jeff