topic Re: Working with DNAS in Operating System - OpenVMS

Working with DNAS

Vallentin, Manfred — Mon, 02 May 2005 08:14:28 GMT

Hello,
i look for everybody who known and working with DNAS under OVMS. Is it possible that DNAS is working only with TCPIP and how can i connect to a DECServer over a DCL Script, without manual Entrys (Enter, Access...)?

DNAS is Digital Network Access Software.

Thanks for your hints

Re: Working with DNAS

Anton van Ruitenbeek — Mon, 02 May 2005 08:30:56 GMT

Manfred,

If I'm correct DNAS is windows only, but TSM is just for OpenVMS. TSM is very old, but very stable and I'm not sure where to get it anymore.

AvR

Re: Working with DNAS

Vallentin, Manfred — Mon, 02 May 2005 08:46:24 GMT

Hello Anton,
sorry but you can install also under OVMS and Unix this Version.Starting with the COmmand "DSV$CONFIGURE".

TSM is correct but its only running with LAT and not under TCPIP.

mfg
Manfred

Re: Working with DNAS

Volker Halle — Mon, 02 May 2005 08:59:13 GMT

Manfred,

TSM V2.1 is on the OpenVMS Freeware CD V6. It runs with MOP (not LAT), but does NOT support DECserver management via TCPIP.

DNAS is the software running on the DECservers. @DSV$CONFIGURE will configure your load host to downline load the DECserver image.

For DECserver management over TCPIP, you'll need ASM (Access Server Manager) under Windows for remote management.

Volker.

Re: Working with DNAS

Vallentin, Manfred — Mon, 02 May 2005 09:12:04 GMT

Hello VOlker,
thank you for your hint.
My Problem is we have COnfigured Scripts wich we have in DCL-Scripts. Over TSM we connectedt to the explizit DECServer and than we configure the Server with the Contents of the SCL-Script. The other method is, that we make a connect over TELNET but the problem is, we must make a manual Return with a following entering of a Name to come to the Local> Prompt.

mfg
Manfred

Re: Working with DNAS

Volker Halle — Mon, 02 May 2005 09:23:36 GMT

Mafred,

did you try something like KERMIT ?

I assume you cannot connect to your DECservers with MOP anymore (and therefore need a replacement for TSM), right ?!

Volker.

Re: Working with DNAS

Vallentin, Manfred — Mon, 02 May 2005 10:09:26 GMT

Hello Volker,
yes is right,in the moment we have both mop, LAT, DECNET and TCPIP. In the Future the DECServer become the IP-Adress from a WINdows DHCP-Server over Bootp or DHCP (if it possible) Then we switch LAT and MOP off and want over TELNET make the new connection.
I know we have talk together on the last decus-Days in 2004 but i have your answer not understand. who is the different between Telnet and Kermit at the time of connect?

Thanks for your Answer
Manfred

Re: Working with DNAS

Robert Gezelter — Mon, 02 May 2005 11:01:32 GMT

Manfred,

Telnet implementations do not generally provide scripting support. C-Kermit has extensive scripting capabilities and can be programmed to deal with the carriage return issue automatically.

- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com

Re: Working with DNAS

Volker Halle — Mon, 02 May 2005 11:40:19 GMT

Manfred,

if you use KERMIT, you can write an automatic script, e.g.

set host ip-name-of-decserver
if fail stop 1 Connection failed
lineout
input 5 #
if success lineout ACCESS
input 5 username>
if success lineout userxyz
input 5 Local>
...

and so on.

The script can send an empty line terminated with and thus invoke the # prompt.

Volker.

Re: Working with DNAS

Karl Rohwedder — Tue, 03 May 2005 00:08:11 GMT

The replacement for TSM (used for LAT connected servers) is 'Access Server Manager' (my version is V2.3 from 1998) from DEC.
It runs on Windows and manages TCPIP based servers like TSM. The syntax for the script files is nearly the same as TSM's.

We store the scripts together with the TSM scripts on a pathwork share.

regards Kalle

Re: Working with DNAS

Vallentin, Manfred — Tue, 03 May 2005 02:43:51 GMT

Hello VOlker,
ok, i will test your hints.
Can you tell me where i find the Kermit application?

mfg
Manfred

Re: Working with DNAS

David B Sneddon — Tue, 03 May 2005 03:16:51 GMT

Kermit can be found at

http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/

Dave