topic Kermit in Operating System - OpenVMS

Kermit

Paula Mattmiller — Tue, 31 May 2005 12:19:18 GMT

Does anyone have any info on how to use this?
Can this be used with PowerTerm and a PC to get info to and from the VAX?

Re: Kermit

Kris Clippeleyr — Tue, 31 May 2005 13:58:16 GMT

Hi Paula,

Welcome to the VMS forum.

Regarding Kermit, you'd best check the website
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck80.html

But do you really need it? You seem to have PowerTerm, that can be used to log in into an OpenVMS system, and since every Windoze PC is equipped with an ftp client, you can use that to transfer files from/to the VMS system.

Hope this helps,
Kris (aka Qkcl)

Re: Kermit

Robert Gezelter — Tue, 31 May 2005 16:57:28 GMT

Paula,

Yes, KERMIT is very handy. I frequently use the OpenVMS C-KERMIT for a variety of tasks. In general, C-KERMIT has a powerful scripting capability, as well as the ability to work over non-IP links (as well as over TELNET connections).

For a client, I recently made the modifications to C-KERMIT to make outgoing LAT connections. Thus, I was able to utilize an Ethernet connection to a VAX which had neither DECnet not IP, for the purposes of file backup to another system.

The C-KERMIT book is an excellent reference for the package. It is, as described, available from the Columbia University fileserver at no charge.

I hope that the above is helpful.

- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com

Re: Kermit

David B Sneddon — Tue, 31 May 2005 23:12:29 GMT

Bob,

Have you considered submitting your changes for
inclusion in the C-Kermit source?

Dave

Re: Kermit

Robert Gezelter — Wed, 01 Jun 2005 02:17:15 GMT

Dave,

It is my intent to submit the changes to the C-KERMIT project.

However, I have not had time to finish all of the odds and ends necessary for complete integration. I have a bit of work to do, and my schedule has been limited.

The particular client project that required the LAT connection is being accomplised successfully with the test version, with some of the functions rather specifically hardwired.

When I get the spare time, I will finish the job (of if the client needs the additional functionality).

- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com

Re: Kermit

David B Sneddon — Wed, 01 Jun 2005 02:23:26 GMT

Bob,

Sounds good -- I look forward to seeing it

Dave

Re: Kermit

Paula Mattmiller — Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:44:56 GMT

Thank you everyone for your response.
Do I need to have TCP/IP installed on the VAX to utilize ftp?

The goal is to not have to install anything. I have DecNet and LAT running. I cannot have my VAX on the same network as my Windows servers anymore, as it runs Netbeui, and that is not allowed.

I'm looking for a way for current users to utilze their PowerTerm session to run their VAX programs, as well as transfer any files needed.

Thanks a lot for all of your info.
(I'm reading the Kermit link as I type.)
Thanks again!

Re: Kermit

Verne Britton — Wed, 01 Jun 2005 15:43:19 GMT

You mention Netbeui; do you have Pathworks installed already? If spending some money is OK, perhaps all you need are some (and I forget the details) PW client licenses and some PW Connect licenses... the PW client has a very nice VT emulator to sign on with, and will let you "share" Vax disk space to your PC just as any Windows server can !!

Re: Kermit

Antoniov. — Thu, 02 Jun 2005 02:46:26 GMT

Hi Paula,
if you are using PowerTerm on PC, you can also transfer files from/to vax without network. You can do this simply installing c-kermit on vax server (you have to download ckermit.exe).
When you have to transfer:
1. Open emulation session on vax with PowerTerm
2. Run c-kermit in server mode (on vax)
3. Click on PowerTerm menu:
Comunication->Receive file->Kermit

Warning: check your powerterm software has kermit dll
Kermit procedure is not easy to end user.
Kermit transfer doesn't need of tcp/ip.

Antonio Vigliotti

Re: Kermit

David B Sneddon — Thu, 02 Jun 2005 03:03:38 GMT

Paula,

Be aware that if you are using Powerterm, that
their implementation of Kermit is not an officially
supported (by Kermit) version and that you will
not get the best performance.

Dave