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A DECWindows question

Winson_1 — Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:32:08 GMT

Greeting, we’re running an Alpha DS25 v8.2 and getting this error, “%DECW$DEVICE-I-NODEVICE, no graphics devices found” when starting up DECWindows software. We have no intention of running a GUI windows (~DECWindows) on the local/console end and would not need a video graphic card to startup DECWindows services, correct?

Thanks,
Winson

Re: A DECWindows question

ConwayS — Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:38:58 GMT

You don't need a graphics terminal. Put "
$ define/system/execDECW$IGNORE_WORKSTATION true" into SYLOGICALS.COM or SYSTARTUP.COM to make the message stop.

You might want to change the console variable called "console" from graphics to serial.

Steve

Re: A DECWindows question

John Abbott_2 — Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:40:02 GMT

You can turn off DECwindows from SYSGEN, parameter WINDOW_SYSTEM (set to 0)

Just incase you're not aware, best to put this is SYS$SYSTEM:MODPARAMS.DAT add the line WINDOW_SYSTEM=0 when you next run or are forced to run AUTOGEN (comment it too!)

You can manually change it for the next reboot by

$ MC SYSGEN
SYSGEN> USE CURRENT
SYSGEN> SET WINDOW_SYSTEM 0
SYSGEN> SHO .
SYSGEN> WRITE CURRENT

Of course there are other ways too.

Kind Regards
John.

Re: A DECWindows question

ConwayS — Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:53:31 GMT

Forget system parameter WINDOW_SYSTEM, starting with DECwindows V1.2-3. It has no effect on anything.

Steve

Re: A DECWindows question

Ian Miller. — Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:19:07 GMT

DECW$DEVICE-I-NODEVICE

is an informational message not an error.

If you don't want decwindows to start put
$ DEFINE/SYSTEM DECW$IGNORE_DECWINDOWS 1
in SYS$MANAGER:SYLOGICALS.COM

Setting the system parameter WINDOW_SYSTEM to 0
no longer works to stop DEC Windows from starting as (if the above logical is not set) the DECWindows startup 'helpfully' corrects the system parameter for you.

Re: A DECWindows question

Uwe Zessin — Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:30:41 GMT

It's not 'helpfull' - it is a deliberate bug and the people who are responsible for this are not willing to change it !! (as reported on comp.os.vms quite some time ago)

Re: A DECWindows question

Winson_1 — Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:32:36 GMT

Basically what I'm trying to accomplish here is to have GUI / DEC windows on the remote end. On the local/console end I only have a terminal emulator to the Alpha (no video card). I installed AXPVMS DWMOTIF v1.5, setup WINDOW_SYSTEM to 1 in SYSGEN and reboot system. Anyone knows what else I need to enable on the Alpha. On the PC end I'm running WRQ Reflection X.

Re: A DECWindows question

Thomas Ritter — Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:49:04 GMT

Winson,
You need to set a display to your PC
Something like this
On the VMS node
$ set term/displ/create/trans=tcpip/node="your_ip_address"
$ software/inter=decw
Where software is an application that supports decwindows.

You must be running the X Client of Reflections.

Re: A DECWindows question

ca750090 — Thu, 12 Jan 2006 02:03:38 GMT

Steve,

Setting the console variable to "serial" won't make a difference for this. I have come across this on one of my own systems at home, also running OpenVMS 8.2.

Re: A DECWindows question

Winson_1 — Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:20:44 GMT

Got it working..

Re: A DECWindows question

Thomas Ritter — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 18:42:30 GMT

Winson, what did you do to make it work ?

Re: A DECWindows question

Winson_1 — Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:10:16 GMT

Thomas,
WRQ Reflection X came with these files (alpha_sm.erx, instalsm.crx, startapp.crx, startlog.crx, vax_sm.erx) that need to be rename and upload to the ALPHA. You need to execute those files on the ALPHA to configure DEC Window to interface with Reflection X. Once that's accomplished you can issue such command as WINMGR or WSINIT to ALPHA system on Reflection X to have a Graphic User Interface.

Winson