topic Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks in Operating System - OpenVMS

VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Lucky Regent — Thu, 14 May 2009 06:11:51 GMT

We have a VAX VMS server V5.5-2..We want to make a connection between VMS server and our PC with WindowXP OS using pathworks.
I want to know that:-
1>Is windowXP support Pathwork.
2>Any specific requirement to make this connection.
3>Any other things that can help me.

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Hakan Zanderau ( Anders — Thu, 14 May 2009 06:15:55 GMT

What is the purpose for the "connection" between the VMS server and the PC ??
Filetransfer ??
Diskservice ?
Printservice ?

Hakan

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Hakan Zanderau ( Anders — Thu, 14 May 2009 06:20:17 GMT

Is this the server with the bootproblem ??

http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1338501

Hakan

Just to make sure we don't make changes to an unstable system

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Lucky Regent — Thu, 14 May 2009 06:23:52 GMT

Thanku Adreson for ur reply..

This is for File transfer..

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Hakan Zanderau ( Anders — Thu, 14 May 2009 06:25:43 GMT

If UCX ( TCP/IP ) is installed wouldn't FTP help ?

Hakan

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Lucky Regent — Thu, 14 May 2009 06:35:05 GMT

its ok anderson but i need pathworks...??

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Hakan Zanderau ( Anders — Thu, 14 May 2009 06:38:50 GMT

Pathworks is a client/server application to
make the OpenVMS server act as File & Print server for PC:s

Pathworks is not a requirement for FTP.

Have you never used FTP ? on a PC for example.

Hakan

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

marsh_1 — Thu, 14 May 2009 06:54:06 GMT

hi,

what version of pathworks are you using ?

windows xp is supported.see here for another similar thread and a link for the pathworks page at hp :-

http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=964538

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/pathworks32/index.html

for requirements see the spd and read the documentation.

hth

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Lucky Regent — Thu, 14 May 2009 07:15:18 GMT

Can anybody tell me which is better one:-
1>tcp/ip
2>pathworks

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Hakan Zanderau ( Anders — Thu, 14 May 2009 07:34:56 GMT

It depends on your needs.....

Until now, the only info you have given us is "Filetransfer".

I say it once more.

You MUST be more detailed when you describe your problem. If I were the one having problem and you were trying to help me......what info would you ask for ??

Hakan

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Jon Pinkley — Thu, 14 May 2009 08:19:01 GMT

3>Any other things that can help me.

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And if your other problem doesn't get resolved, this might help you

http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/01/how-to-ask-good-questions-in-an-interview/

And depending on your situation, this may be helpful, but not here.

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Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Lucky Regent — Thu, 14 May 2009 11:51:43 GMT

i have following doubts. Please help me out.

1>While installing Pathworks ver 7.4 on Window XP Pro, do we also need to install the same version of pathworks on Vax-VMS?

2> Does Pathworks V7.4 work on Vax/vms 5.2?

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Hakan Zanderau ( Anders — Thu, 14 May 2009 12:00:57 GMT

The version of Pathworks for VMS 5.5-2 is 5.0F

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/pathworks/pathv5.html

You haven't answered my question if this is the server with the bootproblem.

Hakan

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Brad McCusker — Thu, 14 May 2009 14:35:24 GMT

>While installing Pathworks ver 7.4 on >Window XP Pro, do we also need to install >the same version of pathworks on Vax-VMS?

No.

In fact, you do NOT need PATHWORKS on your client PC at all to use PATHWORKS on VMS.

Also, there is no such thing as PATHWORKS V7.4 for OpenVMS.

There is NO releationship between PATHWORKS on the PC and PATHWORKS on VMS. You do not need one to use the other - with one exception: DECnet. If you plan to use DECnet to communicate between your VAX and your PC then you need PATHWORKS on the PC to provide the DECnet stack on the PC. Otherwise, you do not need PATHWORKS on the PC.

The last version of PATHWORKS for OpenVMS V5.5-2 was PATHWORKS V5.0F. PATHWORKS V5.0F does not support Windows XP clients. It may work, but I doubt it. I have never tried it.

As others have said, we could help you more if you would let us know what you are trying to do. If you simply want to move files between the PC and the VAX, then use ftp. If ftp will not work for you, please explain why and tell us what you are trying to do.

Brad McCusker
Software Concepts International
www.sciinc.com

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Hoff — Thu, 14 May 2009 15:08:21 GMT

[Reposting this due to the usual ITRC posting-lost glitch. Apologies, etc.]

With the communications gap obviously arising here (and the fear of job loss and the lack of local OpenVMS VAX skills that are mentioned in your other thread), I would doubt that the ITRC forums are going to lead anywhere but frustration for everybody involved here.

On no evidence other than the apparent unfamiliarity with OpenVMS VAX and related products here, I'd recommend replacing the OpenVMS VAX box with a Windows Server box, or one of the various NAS storage boxes running Windows File Services or analogous. Going to a native-Windows solution.

HP offers ProLiant servers and various NAS boxes that will likely better fulfill your (assumed!) requirements and (assumed!) expectations, and would make the best use of your existing Windows experience and skills.

I just don't think OpenVMS VAX is a good fit here, and suspect that there are better solutions for your particular environment.

Some time spent with a specialist here could help tailor a solution (whether that might use PATHWORKS 32 client on Windows XP and PATHWORKS Server on an upgraded OpenVMS VAX box), or the use of ftp or Filezilla on WIndows and TCP/IP Services on OpenVMS VAX, or a Windows-based environment, or something else) to your particular local requirements. Unlike the hardware service and repair matter from the other thread, this configuration matter can likely be discussed via conference call.

For reference, here is the other referenced thread:

http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1338501

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Lucky Regent — Fri, 15 May 2009 03:16:08 GMT

To:- Anderson
Thanks anderson and That system is working fine now?

To:-Brad...thank you brad for ur useful informations. Still i have some doubts:- here they go:-

We used to FTP(TCP/IP) connection between Window XP and VAX/VMS machine to tranfer data.

Now we want to connect Window XP and VAX?VMS machine vie Pathworks. SO make a connection between these two vie PAthworks do we need to install same version of pathworks on the Both machines.

Or if vax machine has other version of Pathworks and XP has another version of pathworks. CAn we make a pathworks connection between these machines?

what other requirement should be met to accomplish this task??

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Jon Pinkley — Fri, 15 May 2009 03:54:39 GMT

RE: what other requirement should be met to accomplish this task??

The ability to read and understand the documentation.

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Hakan Zanderau ( Anders — Fri, 15 May 2009 04:18:38 GMT

>To:- Anderson
>Thanks anderson and That system is working fine now?

Could you share the solution with all of us who tried to help you by updating the thread

http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1338501

and maybe close it ?

Pathworks isn't just something you install and then leave..... it needs configuration and maintenance.

Hakan

BTW....have you started to take backups on this machine now ? before doing further installations/changes ?

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Lucky Regent — Fri, 15 May 2009 04:42:35 GMT

To:-Anderson

Ok i will update that thread.. we still did not take any backups of that system.

I know we need some more things despite of just installing pathworks.

But i want to confirm that can it be possible to make a connection using pathworks between vax/vms and Win XP pro having different version of pathworks.

Re: VMS Server And WindowXP Client..can make a connection using PAthworks

Hakan Zanderau ( Anders — Fri, 15 May 2009 05:03:52 GMT

The server- and client- application is two different applications.

The server version you need is PW 5.0F

Hakan