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    <title>topic Re: Failover devices cannot be changed? in Operating System - OpenVMS</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/failover-devices-cannot-be-changed/m-p/5186914#M58433</link>
    <description>Hi Fredrik,&lt;BR /&gt;        As the message indicated, it looks like you can't do anything with LLA0 because the device is active.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;    I think this can only be changed by rebooting.   Set everything up in the permanent DB.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;LANCP&amp;gt; PURGE DEV LLA0&lt;BR /&gt;LANCP&amp;gt; DEFINE DEV LLA0/FAILOVER=(EWA0,EIA0)&lt;BR /&gt;LANCP&amp;gt; DEFINE DEV LLA0/ENABLE&lt;BR /&gt;LANCP&amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;  You should now be able to do a &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;LANCP&amp;gt; LIST DEV LLA0 /CHAR&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;  and it should show the new device makeup.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Now Boot and the new device will be created.   Remember your TCPIP setup if this device is your main network interface.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;hth&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Dave. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;ps.   I only THINK a reboot is necessary.  Someone else may know better.</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:33:59 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>The Brit</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-07-13T17:33:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Failover devices cannot be changed?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/failover-devices-cannot-be-changed/m-p/5186913#M58432</link>
      <description>Hi,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I'm trying to set up a 2 failover devices with 4 network cards.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;My current setup looks like this:&lt;BR /&gt;V0003 Device Listing, volatile database (13-JUL-2009 10:29:09.88):&lt;BR /&gt;  Device&lt;BR /&gt;  ------&lt;BR /&gt;  EWA0&lt;BR /&gt;  EWB0&lt;BR /&gt;  EIA0&lt;BR /&gt;  EIB0&lt;BR /&gt;  LLA0&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Where LLA0 is a failover set with EWA0 and EWB0.&lt;BR /&gt;This is no longer the correct setup since the net guys wants us to use EWA and EIA for LLA0 and EWB and EIB for LLB0.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;When I try to change LLA0 I get this:&lt;BR /&gt;LANCP&amp;gt; define dev LLA0 /fail=(EWA0,EIA0) /enab&lt;BR /&gt;LANCP&amp;gt; set dev LLA0 /fail=(EWA0,EIA0)/enab&lt;BR /&gt;%LANCP-W-LLANON, Logical LAN already enabled, device LLA0&lt;BR /&gt;-LANCP-E-LLANACT, LAN device active, cannot be added to or removed from Logical LAN LLA0&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If I then try disable the device:&lt;BR /&gt;LANCP&amp;gt; set dev lla0 /disab&lt;BR /&gt;%LANCP-E-LLANACT, LAN device active, cannot be added to or removed from Logical LAN LLA0&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;What am I doing wrong?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I've tried to clear/purge dev lla0 and redefining them without success..&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Best regards&lt;BR /&gt;Fredrik Eriksson</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:34:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/failover-devices-cannot-be-changed/m-p/5186913#M58432</guid>
      <dc:creator>Fredrik.eriksson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-13T07:34:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Failover devices cannot be changed?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/failover-devices-cannot-be-changed/m-p/5186914#M58433</link>
      <description>Hi Fredrik,&lt;BR /&gt;        As the message indicated, it looks like you can't do anything with LLA0 because the device is active.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;    I think this can only be changed by rebooting.   Set everything up in the permanent DB.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;LANCP&amp;gt; PURGE DEV LLA0&lt;BR /&gt;LANCP&amp;gt; DEFINE DEV LLA0/FAILOVER=(EWA0,EIA0)&lt;BR /&gt;LANCP&amp;gt; DEFINE DEV LLA0/ENABLE&lt;BR /&gt;LANCP&amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;  You should now be able to do a &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;LANCP&amp;gt; LIST DEV LLA0 /CHAR&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;  and it should show the new device makeup.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Now Boot and the new device will be created.   Remember your TCPIP setup if this device is your main network interface.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;hth&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Dave. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;ps.   I only THINK a reboot is necessary.  Someone else may know better.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:33:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/failover-devices-cannot-be-changed/m-p/5186914#M58433</guid>
      <dc:creator>The Brit</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-13T17:33:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Failover devices cannot be changed?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/failover-devices-cannot-be-changed/m-p/5186915#M58434</link>
      <description>It just occurred to me that you might be able to impliment the change by shutting down your network software (TCPIP/DECNET).   Which wouldn't necessarily require a reboot, but it probably would take all of your users off the system.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Dave&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:36:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/failover-devices-cannot-be-changed/m-p/5186915#M58434</guid>
      <dc:creator>The Brit</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-13T17:36:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Failover devices cannot be changed?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/failover-devices-cannot-be-changed/m-p/5186916#M58435</link>
      <description>You can find out what applications are using the ll device by doing:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;mc lancp show config/user&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Also, to do what you want, you can add and remove devices until you get the configuration you want, but if a particular device is active then you can't remove it.  But you could do a LANCP SET DEV/SWITCH LLA to switch to the other device and then you could remove the device that is no longer active.  So you can add and remove devices as long as they are not active (and of course not standby in another failover set).&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;- Dick</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:24:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/failover-devices-cannot-be-changed/m-p/5186916#M58435</guid>
      <dc:creator>Richard Stockdale</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-14T02:24:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Failover devices cannot be changed?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/failover-devices-cannot-be-changed/m-p/5186917#M58436</link>
      <description>Thank you all for the replies but I figured it out.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Seems like SCACP locked all devices at boot for use in my cluster communication.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Doing this solved it:&lt;BR /&gt;node&amp;gt; mc scacp&lt;BR /&gt;SCACP&amp;gt; stop lan EIA&lt;BR /&gt;SCACP&amp;gt; stop lan EWA&lt;BR /&gt;SCACP&amp;gt; stop lan LLA0&lt;BR /&gt;SCACP&amp;gt; exit&lt;BR /&gt;node&amp;gt; mc lancp&lt;BR /&gt;LANCP&amp;gt; define dev LLA0 /fail=(EIA,EWA)/enab&lt;BR /&gt;LANCP&amp;gt; set dev LLA0 /fail=(EIA,EWA)/enab&lt;BR /&gt;LANCP&amp;gt; exit&lt;BR /&gt;node&amp;gt; mc scacp&lt;BR /&gt;SCACP&amp;gt; start lan LLA0&lt;BR /&gt;SCACP&amp;gt; stop lan EIB&lt;BR /&gt;SCACP&amp;gt; stop lan EWB&lt;BR /&gt;SCACP&amp;gt; stop lan LLB0&lt;BR /&gt;SCACP&amp;gt; exit&lt;BR /&gt;node&amp;gt; mc lancp&lt;BR /&gt;LANCP&amp;gt; define dev LLB0 /fail=(EIB,EWB)/enab&lt;BR /&gt;LANCP&amp;gt; set dev LLB0 /fail=(EIB,EWB)/enab&lt;BR /&gt;LANCP&amp;gt; exit&lt;BR /&gt;node&amp;gt; mc scacp&lt;BR /&gt;SCACP&amp;gt; start lan LLB0&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I did have to reboot (involuntary thou) since I accidently disabled all devices for cluster communication (which created a state transition), but it didn't release the devices.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Best regards&lt;BR /&gt;Fredrik Eriksson</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:34:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/failover-devices-cannot-be-changed/m-p/5186917#M58436</guid>
      <dc:creator>Fredrik.eriksson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-14T05:34:17Z</dc:date>
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