topic Re: AVAIL_MAN and AVAIL verb not known in Operating System - OpenVMS

AVAIL_MAN and AVAIL verb not known

labadie_1 — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 09:49:17 GMT

I install succesfully AVAIL_MAN V2.3 on an Alpha Vms 6.2-1H3.
previously I applied the patch 62TO71PCSI
The node has been rebooted.
@SYS$STARTUP:AMDS$STARTUP START
gives "normal" messages
sda> show lan
shows Amds
EWA17 81D87C80 802E 08-00-2B-80-48 AMDS 0017 STRTN,LEN,UNIQ,STRTD

Then
$ avail/motif
or $ avail/zorro
gives
%DCL-W-IVVERB, unrecognized command verb - check validity and spelling
\AVAIL\

At
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/availman/6552INSTALL_vms.HTML

the last lines say something with (maybe) a relationship with my problem
---------------------
If you later install a version of DECamds that is earlier than Version 7.3-1, you must reinstall the Availability Manager to define the AVAIL command correctly.
---------------------

I have installed twice AVAIL_MAN V2.3 with no improvement :-(

Thanks for any hint.

Gerard

Re: AVAIL_MAN and AVAIL verb not known

Åge Rønning — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 10:13:43 GMT

Have you done a new login to be sure you use the new DCLTABLES?

Re: AVAIL_MAN and AVAIL verb not known

labadie_1 — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 10:15:56 GMT

Yes, after the second instal of AVail_man, I logged in again :-(

Re: AVAIL_MAN and AVAIL verb not known

Martin P.J. Zinser — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 14:08:17 GMT

Check sys$library:dcltables.exe for creation/modification date. Does that match with your AMDS installation?

Re: AVAIL_MAN and AVAIL verb not known

labadie_1 — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 14:37:06 GMT

May be I should just extract the avail.cld from the .pcsi and apply it ?

Gerard

Re: AVAIL_MAN and AVAIL verb not known

Martin P.J. Zinser — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 14:56:46 GMT

Hello Gerard,

that depends ;-) If this is the only thing that went wrong during the installation, yes this will cure it. If anything else went astray you might be setting yourself up for some lengthy "fun" trying to figure out what the problem is.

How does product show hist look like (including Avail Man and AMDS)?

Greetings, Martin

Re: AVAIL_MAN and AVAIL verb not known

labadie_1 — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:27:29 GMT

product show hist shows nearly nothing, the 62TO71pcsi, twice availman, and old installations (from 1999)
There is Decw 1.2-4, as this is required in the installation guide.

I will post it tomorrow.

May be I will install it again tomorrow with all the debug qualifiers (/log/trace/debug=xxx)
in order to see if I have more than the 3 lines with
-I-
that I saw.

regards

Gerard

Re: AVAIL_MAN and AVAIL verb not known

labadie_1 — Fri, 07 Nov 2003 04:00:38 GMT

prod sh hist
----------------------------------- ----------- ----------- --------------------
PRODUCT KIT TYPE OPERATION DATE AND TIME
----------------------------------- ----------- ----------- --------------------
DEC VMS AVAIL_MAN V2.3 Full LP Install 06-NOV-2003 15:31:07
DEC VMS AVAIL_MAN V2.3 Full LP Install 04-NOV-2003 16:30:52
DEC AXPVMS VMS62TO71U2_PCSI V2.0 Patch Install 04-NOV-2003 16:24:57
DEC AXPVMS DNVOSIECO10 V6.3 Patch Install 29-OCT-1999 17:56:42
DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.2-4 Full LP Install 29-OCT-1999 17:28:14
DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.2-3 Full LP Remove 29-OCT-1999 17:28:14
DEC AXPVMS UCXECO_41_6 V6.0 Patch Install 06-MAR-1998 05:57:34
DEC AXPVMS UCX V4.1-12 Full LP Install 04-MAR-1998 11:32:44
DEC AXPVMS UCX V4.0 Full LP Remove 04-MAR-1998 11:32:44
DEC AXPVMS UCX V4.0 Full LP Install 28-MAY-1997 16:22:49
DEC AXPVMS DECNET_OSI V6.3 Full LP Install 28-MAY-1997 15:56:00
DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.2-3 Full LP Install 28-MAY-1997 13:23:10
DEC AXPVMS NASAXP V8.0 Full LP Install 28-MAY-1997 12:44:33
DEC AXPVMS VMS V6.2-1H3 Oper System Install 28-MAY-1997 12:21:34
----------------------------------- ----------- ----------- --------------------

14 items found

The suspicious reader will notice the lack of y2k patches and all rating 1 patches :-}
But the customer does not want yet to apply them, as this is a production node.

Re: AVAIL_MAN and AVAIL verb not known

labadie_1 — Fri, 07 Nov 2003 04:41:29 GMT

dir/dat=all sys$library:dcltables.exe

Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]

DCLTABLES.EXE;112 772/772 4-NOV-2003 16:24:40.96 4-NOV-2
003 16:24:42.35

So the Dcltables was updated when I applied the 62TO71PCSI, but not when I applied (twice) the AVAIL_MAN.
So it is quite logical that the verb AVAIL is not known.

Re: AVAIL_MAN and AVAIL verb not known

labadie_1 — Fri, 07 Nov 2003 05:15:52 GMT

I think I have found, I made a mistake.
As I usually install Amds, I type
$ avail
on Vms, but here, with Availability Manager and not Amds, it will be the PC who will manage.
The message
The Availability Manager Java Data Analyzer cannot be installed on this vers
ion of OpenVMS AXP. Do you want to install the Availability Manager Data Collect

that I read carefully (for once!).

In the Pcsi$description, I found
if () ;
option AM_ANALYZER ;
directory [AMDS$AM.JRE] ;
module [SYSUPD]AMDS$COMMAND.CLD

As I have Vms 6.2-1H3...
Sorry for wasting your time.

Gerard

Re: AVAIL_MAN and AVAIL verb not known

Ian Miller. — Fri, 07 Nov 2003 11:58:29 GMT

use AMDS on that version of VMS. You may need an earlier kit than the currrent one however.