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    <title>topic Re: Backup error message in Operating System - OpenVMS</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/backup-error-message/m-p/3180926#M61835</link>
    <description>Hi,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;For me it's the first time that i've seen this kind of message...&lt;BR /&gt;a beginning of explanation with help from Openvms:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;READATTR,  error reading attributes for 'file-spec'&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;  Facility:     BACKUP, Backup Utility&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;  Explanation:  The Backup utility encountered an error during an attempt to&lt;BR /&gt;                read the file attributes of the specified file.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;  User Action:  Take action based on the accompanying message.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The magic gurus of this forum should give us more information...&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;regards&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Steph.</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2004 02:14:08 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Guillou_2</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2004-02-03T02:14:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Backup error message</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/backup-error-message/m-p/3180925#M61834</link>
      <description>This night during backup we had an abnormal error message.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;$ Backup/Nolog/Assist DSA1:[SYBASE$ZIP...]*.*;* /Block_Size=65535 SPVMX$MKC500:SYB_PJ_ZIP.Bck/Save_Set &lt;BR /&gt;/Label=V82064 /RECORD/IGNORE=INTERLOCK &lt;BR /&gt;/Media=Compac /Journal=Bck_tmp:SYB_PJ_ZIP.Jnl&lt;BR /&gt;%BACKUP-W-READATTRRETRY, 1 READATTR error occurred reading DSA1:[SYBASE$ZIP.EIE&lt;BR /&gt;%BACKUP-I-STARTRECORD, starting backup date recording pass&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Anyone has seen this before ?&lt;BR /&gt;Anal/rms didn't see anything abnormal.&lt;BR /&gt;A subsequent backup didn't fail.&lt;BR /&gt;Was something locked ?&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2004 02:00:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/backup-error-message/m-p/3180925#M61834</guid>
      <dc:creator>Wim Van den Wyngaert</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-02-03T02:00:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Backup error message</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/backup-error-message/m-p/3180926#M61835</link>
      <description>Hi,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;For me it's the first time that i've seen this kind of message...&lt;BR /&gt;a beginning of explanation with help from Openvms:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;READATTR,  error reading attributes for 'file-spec'&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;  Facility:     BACKUP, Backup Utility&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;  Explanation:  The Backup utility encountered an error during an attempt to&lt;BR /&gt;                read the file attributes of the specified file.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;  User Action:  Take action based on the accompanying message.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The magic gurus of this forum should give us more information...&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;regards&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Steph.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2004 02:14:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/backup-error-message/m-p/3180926#M61835</guid>
      <dc:creator>Guillou_2</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-02-03T02:14:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Backup error message</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/backup-error-message/m-p/3180927#M61836</link>
      <description>Hi Wim,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt; You have to install latest backup eco kit . &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Here is an abstract from eco kit VMS731_BACKUP-V0100 summary:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;________________________________&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;BACKUP/IGNORE=INTERLOCK command could result in intermittent&lt;BR /&gt;        READATTR/NOSUCHFILE errors.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;        When using a /IGNORE=INTERLOCK switch with BACKUP, files are&lt;BR /&gt;        accessed with NOLOCK since the use of the qualifier implies&lt;BR /&gt;        target files will be open.  A read operation with NOLOCK&lt;BR /&gt;        access (which causes the windows to be created/completed) will&lt;BR /&gt;        force the XQP to re-build the FCB chain.  In order to do so,&lt;BR /&gt;        the extension FCB chain is deleted and then rebuilt.  If, at&lt;BR /&gt;        the same time, another process comes along with a read&lt;BR /&gt;        attributes call, the XQP will find that the extension FCB&lt;BR /&gt;        chain is missing and not find the extension FCB for the&lt;BR /&gt;        header.  The XQP assumes that the caller is trying to get to&lt;BR /&gt;        the extension header directly and returns a NOSUCHFILE error.&lt;BR /&gt;        There is nothing that the XQP can do in this case.  Another&lt;BR /&gt;        process is forcing the FCB chain to be rebuilt and because of&lt;BR /&gt;        the nolock access, the XQP cannot trust the chain.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;        BACKUP attempts recovery (retry) from a READATTR error, when a&lt;BR /&gt;        "no such file" error is returned from the XQP when reading an&lt;BR /&gt;        extension header, with open, fragmented files (/IGN=INTERLOCK&lt;BR /&gt;        is used).&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;        The fix is to retry the same extension header 3 times.  If any&lt;BR /&gt;        of those access attempts are successful, continue to move&lt;BR /&gt;        forward through the file while logging the number of attempts.&lt;BR /&gt;        If the retry count is exhausted the file is no longer&lt;BR /&gt;        considered a target and the READATTR/NOSUCHFILE error will be&lt;BR /&gt;        reported.  A new message has been added that reports the retry&lt;BR /&gt;        count.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;        Following are a few examples of possible message sequences:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;           o  Success example 1:  Recovered from the first and only&lt;BR /&gt;              error.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;              %BACKUP-W-READATTRRETRY, 1 READATTR error occurred reading&lt;BR /&gt;              $4$DKA310:[READATTR]1XQPXR_FRAGMENT.DAT;1&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;           o  Success example 2:  17 retries to save the file, though it&lt;BR /&gt;              was saved successfully.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;              %BACKUP-W-READATTRRETRY, 17 READATTR errors occurred reading&lt;BR /&gt;              $4$DKA310:[READATTR]1XQPXR_FRAGMENT.DAT;1&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;           o  Failure, example 1:  A failing sequence where no&lt;BR /&gt;              successful retries occurred before eventually failing on&lt;BR /&gt;              the same extheader 3 times.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;              %BACKUP-E-READATTR, error reading attributes for&lt;BR /&gt;              $4$DKA310:[READATTR]1XQPXR_FRAGMENT.DAT;1&lt;BR /&gt;              -SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHFILE, no such file&lt;BR /&gt;              %BACKUP-W-READATTRRETRY, 1 READATTR error occurred reading&lt;BR /&gt;              $4$DKA310:[READATTR]1XQPXR_FRAGMENT.DAT;1&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;           o  Failure Example 2:  A failing sequence of 3 successful&lt;BR /&gt;              retries while moving forward through the file on different&lt;BR /&gt;              EXTHDRS, but eventually, unable to recover from the fourth&lt;BR /&gt;              READATTR detected.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;              %BACKUP-E-READATTR, error reading attributes for&lt;BR /&gt;              $4$DKA310:[READATTR]2XQPXR_FRAGMENT.DAT;1&lt;BR /&gt;              -SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHFILE, no such file&lt;BR /&gt;              %BACKUP-W-READATTRRETRY, 4 READATTR errors occurred reading&lt;BR /&gt;              $4$DKA310:[READATTR]2XQPXR_FRAGMENT.DAT;1&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;          The larger the size, more fragmented and interactive the open&lt;BR /&gt;          file, the lesser the chance of success.  Use of&lt;BR /&gt;          /IGNORE=INTERLOCK implies open files are to be processed.  If&lt;BR /&gt;          messages for files are paired (both READATTR/READATTRRETRY are&lt;BR /&gt;          reported) then the file did not get saved completely.  Success&lt;BR /&gt;          is a READATTRRETRY message only.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;          Images Affected:[SYSEXE]BACKUP.EXE&lt;BR /&gt;                          [SYSLIB]BACKUPSHR.EXE&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;\         CLD(s):70-3-1113,70-3-1210,70-3-1820,70-3-1834&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;     o  BACKUP may fail with BACKUP-F-GETCHN/SYSTEM-I-IVIDENT error&lt;BR /&gt;        while performing a /IMAGE operation on a disk that is mounted&lt;BR /&gt;        /FOREIGN.  For example:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;        SYSTEM&amp;gt;BACKUP/IMAGE/IGN=NOBACK DR8015 DR8016&lt;BR /&gt;        %BACKUP-F-GETCHN, error getting device characteristics for&lt;BR /&gt;        $1$DGA8016:&lt;BR /&gt;        -SYSTEM-F-IVIDENT, invalid identifier format&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;          Images Affected:[SYSEXE]BACKUP.EXE&lt;BR /&gt;                          [SYSLIB]BACKUPSHR.EXE&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;\         CLD(s):70-3-5530,70-3-5568,70-3-5832,70-3-5870,70-3-5953&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;     o  A BACKUP-F-CLUSTER error message can be received during a&lt;BR /&gt;        BACKUP/IMAGE/NOINIT operation.  Particularly after&lt;BR /&gt;        pre-initializing a large output device with a small cluster&lt;BR /&gt;        value and a large/max header/ number of files.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;          Images Affected:[SYSEXE]BACKUP.EXE&lt;BR /&gt;                          [SYSLIB]BACKUPSHR.EXE&lt;BR /&gt;______________________________________&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;HTH,&lt;BR /&gt;Best regards,&lt;BR /&gt;Lokesh&lt;BR /&gt;__________________________________________</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2004 02:31:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/backup-error-message/m-p/3180927#M61836</guid>
      <dc:creator>Lokesh_2</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-02-03T02:31:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Backup error message</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/backup-error-message/m-p/3180928#M61837</link>
      <description>Thanks, the patch is already installed. It only did the retry once. So there is no problem. Only the exit status must be considered as normal.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2004 02:37:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/backup-error-message/m-p/3180928#M61837</guid>
      <dc:creator>Wim Van den Wyngaert</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-02-03T02:37:03Z</dc:date>
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