topic Re: dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ? in Operating System - OpenVMS

dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?

labadie_1 — Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:24:38 GMT

On Vax there was a Dclcomplete tool which was really handy: it did
- verb completion, so
$ ana + Tab gave analyze
- option completion
$ ana/ + tab showed all the possible options for analyze (not the options appearing in the help, but all the options that a VERB analyze would show in a verb.cld)
- file completion
$ dir log + tab would show login.com if you have a login.com in this directory
- extension completion
$ dir login. +tab would show login.com, or login.com and login.old if you had 2 files login.*

I know that it is far from trivial to write such a tool for Alpha. I was wondering if some people had tried to do so for Itanium.

Thanks for any hint.

Re: dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?

Kris Clippeleyr — Wed, 06 Oct 2004 03:08:09 GMT

Gerard,

DCLCOMPLETE appeared on the freeware CD 3.0, was originally written by Don Stokes, and later maintained (enhanced) by Ramon Curiel. You can find the .ZIP file at http://vms.process.com/scripts/fileserv/fileserv.com?DCLCOMPLETE.
I doubt that it can be easily ported to Itanium, because as the original author states "it uses a rather ghastly hack to intercept DCL's I/O calls". AFAIK, it also required CMKRNL.
Maybe someday, I might give it a try. But given my current workload, do not expect any results soon.

Greetz,

Kris

Re: dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?

Ian Miller. — Wed, 06 Oct 2004 03:15:18 GMT

The authors home page http://www.daedalus.co.nz/~don/index.html

I had a quick look and it appears definately non-trivial to port this classic piece of 10 year old MACRO32 - might be fun though :-)

Re: dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?

Ian Miller. — Wed, 06 Oct 2004 03:24:02 GMT

I also noticied
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/wiz_3484.html

Re: dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?

Jan van den Ende — Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:54:22 GMT

Well,

maybe my wishes are even more modest.

I still have a Vax version of VERB, but as I hardly ever touch a Vax anymore, its usability has dwindled.
You seem to imply the existence of VERB for Alpha. I somehow never got to really searching for it, but you reminded me agian of its usefullness.

Anybody know where to get it?

TIA

Cheers

Have one on me

Jan

Re: dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?

Kris Clippeleyr — Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:57:58 GMT

Jan,

Verb for Alpha is at http://vms.tuwien.ac.at/goodies/verb-2_2/

Greetz,

Kris

Re: dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?

labadie_1 — Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:59:31 GMT

I have used it on Alpha.

It is on the freeware too

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware50/verb/

Re: dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?

labadie_1 — Wed, 06 Oct 2004 07:34:52 GMT

dclcomplete is on the freeware too

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware40/dclcomplete/

Re: dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?

labadie_1 — Thu, 07 Oct 2004 02:18:42 GMT

As this completion is available on Linux and NT, may be if customers ask for it (loudly) HP will do it ?

:-)

Re: dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?

Kris Clippeleyr — Thu, 07 Oct 2004 02:24:54 GMT

Gerard,

As this completion is available on Linux and NT, may be if customers ask for it (loudly) HP will do it ?

Next week I'm going to attend HP Dutch World. If I run into Guy Peleg, I'll ask him. Guy is the one from engineering doing DCL now.

Greetz,

Kris

Re: dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?

labadie_1 — Thu, 07 Oct 2004 03:06:33 GMT

Kris

Nice idea, and if I go to the same Update Days in London (I do not know yet), I will ask too.

Re: dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?

Ian Miller. — Thu, 07 Oct 2004 04:25:29 GMT

in addition why not add a issue to the hp avocacy page (http://www.hpuseradvocacy.org/) and if you get five me too votes then hp will respond.

Re: dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?

labadie_1 — Thu, 07 Oct 2004 04:38:10 GMT

I have emailed advocacy@hpuseradvocacy.org
about that subject.

Is it the right way to open an issue ?

Re: dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?

Ian Miller. — Thu, 07 Oct 2004 04:59:20 GMT

After you login (needs a email address only), use the search and submit issues link (near the top left of the page).
Follow links to the category within openvms and use the submit button.

If you do submit the issue then tell people here and then people can go and vote me too!

Re: dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?

labadie_1 — Thu, 07 Oct 2004 05:10:04 GMT

I have submitted it, but I do not find it at

http://www.hpuseradvocacy.org/Advocacy/metoo/Categories.cfm

may be I have to wait a little ?

Re: dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?

Ian Miller. — Thu, 07 Oct 2004 06:00:07 GMT

I don't see it either so parhaps there is a delay due to some human intervention?

Re: dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?

labadie_1 — Thu, 07 Oct 2004 07:03:01 GMT

the title is "Dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?", simply.

let's wait a little.

Re: dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?

Ian Miller. — Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:02:39 GMT

Its here
http://www.hpuseradvocacy.org/advocacy/metoo/metooissue.cfm?IssueID=1792

Re: dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?

Antoniov. — Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:06:37 GMT

Added my vote

Antonio Vigliotti

Re: dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?

Guy Peleg — Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:25:45 GMT

We are looking at implementing automatic
command completion for the next version
of the O/S (Post V8.2). If we'll do it, we
plan to support completion of filenames as well. As noted before, this is not trivial
but might be fun.

*** Please do not see this update as an
official commitment ***

Guy