topic Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2 in Operating System - OpenVMS

DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Vladimir Fabecic — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 02:21:17 GMT

Hello
I had to replace (good old) FDDI card with fast ethernet card DE500-BA. I have done it few times before and had no problem. But it was very long time ago.
The machine is AS2100 (4/255). OS version is 6.2.
After installing ALPLAN05_062 (ALPCLUSIO01_062 and ALPY2K02_062 were allready installed) VMS could not see that card. The card is recognized by SRM console.
Can someone remind me what to do?
Thanks

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Kris Clippeleyr — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 03:00:21 GMT

Hi Vladimir,

What does
SHOW DEVICE E
tell you?

Is the card seen in LANCP?
MC LANCP
LANCP> SHOW DEVICE

Is the card properly seated?

Please provide more info.

Regards,
Kris (aka Qkcl)

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Vladimir Fabecic — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 03:10:55 GMT

Hello
SHOW DEVICE E can see just EWA0 devices (EWA-0 is 10 Mbit ethernet card on IO board) that were seen before DE500-BA instalation.
LANCP> SHOW DEVICE also sees just EWA-0.
Is the card properly seated?
It should be. SRM console recognizes both EWA0 and EWB0. I also have link up on that card (when in SRM).
What more info do you need?

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Volker Halle — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 03:30:27 GMT

Vladimir,

can you try SYSMAN> IO AUTO/LOG ? Does it find and configure the DE500-BA ?

Does SDA> CLUE CONFIG/ADAP show the device ?

Volker.

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Andreas Lederer — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 03:33:27 GMT

Hi Vladimir,

Maybe Hardware related:

1.) Is the SRM firmware level 5.3-2 ? (last code)
See release notes:http://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/doc/alpha2100_v53_fw_relnote.pdf
C.4.1.1 Set EW*0_Mode Auto-Negotiate Examples
and
C.4.1.2 Behavior Note on Systems with Multiple DE500â s on OpenVMS Systems

2.) FDDI was an EISA Card ? - If so, you have to run the ECU (EISA Configuration Utility)

3.) Maybe this DE500 is bad ?

4.) I'm intrested of the output:
>>> show * (return)

5.) >>> clear_error all
could clear "scrap" in Memory

regards, Andy

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Vladimir Fabecic — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 05:51:02 GMT

Hello all and thanks for reply
SYSMAN> IO AUTO/LOG did not find DE500-BA
Here is attached file for SDA> CLUE CONFIG
SRM version is 5.1 and machine is AS2100 4/275 (not 4/255, sorry).
FDDI card was PCI, not EISA.
I do not think that DE500-BA is bad because it was recognized by SRM console (but who knows).
I can give output of >>> show * right now because it is an application server (on customer place) for old applications but will try to do it tommorow or day after.
And will try >>> clear_error, but not sure it can help.
I am sure I forgot to do something in OS.

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Wim Van den Wyngaert — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 06:02:00 GMT

Did you install this ?
http://ftp.support.compaq.com.au/pub/ecoinfo/ecoinfo/621.htm

Wim

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Vladimir Fabecic — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 06:11:46 GMT

Wim
Patch ALPBOOT13_062 is patch for boot support for DE500-BA. This machine does not have to boot from network.
But if it can help, it would not be a problem to install that patch.

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Ian Miller. — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 06:18:30 GMT

You may need the ALPBOOT13_062 patch already mentioned. The driver for that card is SYS$LOADABLE_IMAGES:SYS$EWDRIVER_DE500BA.EXE

Note ALPLAN06_062 is the latest kit.

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Wim Van den Wyngaert — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 06:33:06 GMT

My mistake. Interpreted "boot" a little bit to fast. Sorry. Ian is right.

Wim

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Volker Halle — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 06:37:10 GMT

Vladimir,

thanks for the SDA> CLUE CONFIG output. It has the key information for this problem:

7 DIGITAL_PCI_VEND 00191011

The device is seen on the PCI bus with it's hardware ID, but OpenVMS does NOT KNOW how to configure this device !

The seems to be no entry for this device in SYS$SYSTEM:SYS$CONFIG.DAT

device = "DE500-AA/BA (Fast Ethernet)"
name = EW
driver = SYS$EWDRIVER_DE500BA
adapter = PCI
id = 0x00191011
boot_flags = HW_CTRL_LTR, UNIT_0
flags = BOOT, NETWORK
end_device

Please check your SYS$SYSTEM:SYS$CONFIG.DAT file for this entry.

Volker.

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Volker Halle — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 06:45:23 GMT

Vladimir,

the OpenVMS FAQ explicitly talks about V6.2-1H3 (+patches) regarding the support for the DE500-BA - see chapter 14.23 Which DE500 variant works with which OpenVMS version?

Maybe the entry in SYS$CONFIG.DAT did NOT show up BEFORE V6.2-1H3 - this would explain your problem. Even using the most recent ALPLAN06_062 patch won't help if the above would be true.

Volker.

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Wim Van den Wyngaert — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 06:55:06 GMT

This is 6.2, no file called SYS$SYSTEM:SYS$CONFIG.DAT.

WIm

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Vladimir Fabecic — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:07:02 GMT

ALPLAN05_062.txt (cover letter for that patch) says:

4 KIT DESCRIPTION:

4.1 Version(s) of OpenVMS to which this kit may be applied:

OpenVMS Alpha V6.2, V6.2-1H1, V6.2-1H2, V6.2-1H3

4.2 Files patched or replaced:

o [SYSEXE]LANCP.EXE (new image)

o [SYSEXE]LANACP.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]NET$CSMACD.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]NET$FDDI.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$ECDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$EODRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$ERDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$EWDRIVER.EXE (new image)

-- COVER LETTER -- Page 2
1 April 1998

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$ESDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$EWDRIVER_DE500BA.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$EXDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$EZDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$FADRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$FCDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$FRDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$FWDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$FXDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$HCDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$ICDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$IRDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$IWDRIVER.EXE (new image)

So that means that it should work on OpenVMS v6.2!
Am I wrong?

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Jan van den Ende — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:22:50 GMT

Re/read Volker.

The PATCH may be applied to the noted versions, but V6.2-1H3 is the version that INTRODUCED support for this card.
So NO (sub)-version version before 6.2-1H3 will be able to recognise the card.

You will need to upgrade to (at least' that version to ever be able to use that card.

hth

Proost.

Have one on me.

jpe

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Volker Halle — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:23:24 GMT

Wim,

yes, you're right. File based device configuration support is (was !) new in V7.1

Prior to that version, it was built into 'the OpenVMS kernel' into some system image (see V7.1 New Features Manual).

Valdimir,

according to the patch release notes, it should work. Based on my previous entries, you may be missing some piece to support autoconfiguration to work.

The DE500-BA is seen on the PCI bus, but it's not being configured !

Volker.

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Wim Van den Wyngaert — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:31:59 GMT

Vladi,

The latest patchkit is 06 file (ALPLAN06), not 05.

Wim

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Vladimir Fabecic — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:40:41 GMT

Volker
I also think that I am missing some piece to support autoconfiguration to work. But I do not know that piece. I can install ALPBOOT13_062, but not sure this is the missing piece.
I did not find that additional ALPCPU patch was required for AS2100 4/275. I think the problems were with EV5 machines.
Upgrade to V6.2-1H3 is possible, but I have to be sure it would work.

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Volker Halle — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:41:29 GMT

Vladimir,

there is an ALPCPU0907_062 patch (for Alpha Server 2x00 Systems), which is a COREQUISITE patch for the ALPLAN patch to add support for the DE500-BA (in the CPU-specific routines - probably needed for autoconfiguration to work).

Did you install that patch ? Please read the release notes of that patch and consider to also install AXPGUP01_062

Volker.

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Wim Van den Wyngaert — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:45:57 GMT

Checked some advice of Uwe found with Google :
http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/options/as2x00/as2x00_19_options_sorted.html#OptListHead

the ba card is not an option for the 2100.

Wim