topic Re: NTP Client configuration in Operating System - OpenVMS

NTP Client configuration

Taulant Shamo — Thu, 18 Aug 2005 08:16:07 GMT

How can I configure NTP client?
can I check that ntp is installed or not?

I can give ntpq -p but the result is:
ntpq> peers
localhost: timed out, nothing received

Thanks

Re: NTP Client configuration

Antoniov. — Thu, 18 Aug 2005 08:27:32 GMT

At first glance you can inquire for service
$ TCPIP SH SERVICE NTP /FULL

Antonio Vigliotti

Re: NTP Client configuration

Andy Bustamante — Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:46:28 GMT

To see if ntp is running use

$ show system/proc=tcpip$ntp*

If you're running a recent version of VMS and HP's TCPIP the ntp configuration file is sys$specific:[tcpip$ntp]tcpip$ntp.conf. If the file (and directory don'exist) use

@sys$manager:tcpip$config

This will set up the ntp service. You'll need to edit tcpip$ntp.template file to create tcpip$ntp.conf.

Re: NTP Client configuration

Taulant Shamo — Fri, 19 Aug 2005 02:03:44 GMT

I see that does not exist any *ntp* process.
My OpenVMS version is v7.2-1

SCCRA1$ show sys/proc=*ntp*

SCCRA1$ tcpip
%DCL-W-IVVERB, unrecognized command verb - check validity and spelling
\TCPIP\

SCCRA1$ @sys$manager:tcpip$config
%DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]TCPIP$CONFIG.COM; as input
-RMS-E-FNF, file not found

As you see above these files not exist

Re: NTP Client configuration

David B Sneddon — Fri, 19 Aug 2005 02:10:29 GMT

It would appear you don't have TCPIP installed.
Try

$ @sys$manager:ucx$config

in case you have the old version installed.

Dave

Re: NTP Client configuration

Antoniov. — Fri, 19 Aug 2005 02:11:42 GMT

Hi Taulant,
you don't see NTP process because service doesn't start.
The right way to see NTP service (and any other tcp/ip service) is
$ TCPIP SHO SERV NTP /FULL
you should see service disabled.
You can execute
$ @SYS$MANAGER:TCPIP$CONFIG
to configure NTP and any other service of tcp/ip suite.

Antonio Vigliotti

Re: NTP Client configuration

Taulant Shamo — Fri, 19 Aug 2005 02:13:31 GMT

This file does not exist see printout:

SCCRA1$ @SYS$MANAGER:TCPIP$CONFIG
%DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]TCPIP$CONFIG.COM; as input
-RMS-E-FNF, file not found

Re: NTP Client configuration

David B Sneddon — Fri, 19 Aug 2005 02:25:31 GMT

Try

$ @sys$manager:ucx$config

If that also fails then you will need to install
TCPIP.

Dave

Re: NTP Client configuration

Willem Grooters — Fri, 19 Aug 2005 02:25:43 GMT

$ PROD SHOW PROD will show the products installed and the versions. This is highly valuable data for help....

Willem

Re: NTP Client configuration

Antoniov. — Fri, 19 Aug 2005 02:29:59 GMT

Taulant,
if you don't have TCPIP$CONFIG, you have old version of tcp/ip suit called UCX. So every command beginnig with TCPIP$ has to be modificed to UCX$; therefore
$ @SYS$MANAGER:UCX$CONFIG
and to see services:
$ UCX SHOW SERV NTP /FULL

Sorry, for misunderstanding.

Antonio Vigliotti

Re: NTP Client configuration

Taulant Shamo — Fri, 19 Aug 2005 02:56:44 GMT

The product installed are:

SCCRA1$ PROD SHOW PROD
----------------------------------- ----------- ------------
PRODUCT KIT TYPE STATE
----------------------------------- ----------- ------------
DEC AXPVMS DECNET_OSI V7.2-1 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.2-1 Platform Installed
DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.2-1 Oper System Installed
DEC AXPVMS WEBES V4.0-7 Platform Installed
----------------------------------- ----------- ------------

4 items found

TCPIP is not installed.

SCCRA1$ UCX SHOW SERV NTP /FULL
%DCL-W-IVVERB, unrecognized command verb - check validity and spelling
\UCX\

UCX is not installed too

Re: NTP Client configuration

Taulant Shamo — Fri, 19 Aug 2005 03:02:00 GMT

How can in install TCPIP software?
Is needed the server restart after installation?

Can this installation have an impact in syatem, because the4 system is live.

Re: NTP Client configuration

Antoniov. — Fri, 19 Aug 2005 03:02:03 GMT

Taulant,
you have not got tcp/ip suite installed.
No tcp/ip, no NTP!
Is there some reason of tcp/ip are not installed? You have V7.2 and tcp/ip is include in this version of software.

Antonio Vigliotti

Re: NTP Client configuration

Taulant Shamo — Fri, 19 Aug 2005 03:05:46 GMT

The reason why tcpip suite is not installed I don't know. In my other system which is new tcpip suite is installed and ntp is configured properly. this system in older and may be tcpip was not needed before.

my other system has it:
BEP1-> PROD SHOW PROD
----------------------------------- ----------- ------------
PRODUCT KIT TYPE STATE
----------------------------------- ----------- ------------
COMPAQ AXPVMS FMKCTF V3.0 Full LP Installed
COMPAQ AXPVMS FMKLIC V1.2 Full LP Installed
COMPAQ AXPVMS FMKTBX V3.0 Full LP Installed
COMPAQ AXPVMS IN7_CCITT V4.1-5 Full LP InsDependErr
CPQ AXPVMS CDSA V1.0-2 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS DECNET_OSI V7.3-1 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS FTAM V3.2-O Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.3-1 Platform Installed
DEC AXPVMS OSAK V3.0-R Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS TCPIP V5.3-18 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.3-1 Oper System Installed
DEC AXPVMS VT V2.1-J Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS WANDD V1.6-1 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS X25 V1.6-1 Full LP Installed

Re: NTP Client configuration

Antoniov. — Fri, 19 Aug 2005 03:17:08 GMT

Hi,
the other older system appears to be newest software installed. Older has V7.3-1 while newest has V7.2-1.
I think you have to install tcp/ip; AFAIK there are no reason to avoid this software. However it best you ask for a while why tcp/ip is not present. May be this machine must be isolated by other hosts?

Antonio Vigliotti

Re: NTP Client configuration

Taulant Shamo — Fri, 19 Aug 2005 03:23:24 GMT

How to install tcp/ip.
Has any impact in communicationj with other sytems.

Re: NTP Client configuration

Ian Miller. — Fri, 19 Aug 2005 06:21:08 GMT

The TCPIP kit can be found on the VMS CDs.

It will be in a directory with TCPIP in the name.

Current versions of TCPIP install with PCSI so there should be *TCPIP*.PCSI on a CD file which you install with

PRODUCT INSTALL TCPIP/SOURCE=dev:[dir]

where dev:[dir] is the location of the kit.

You do do need a licence for this product. Look for a TCPIP licence or a NAS licence in the result of SHOW LICENSE command.

The TCPIP product can run concurrently with DECnet but not concurrently with other vendors TCP/IP products.

Re: NTP Client configuration

Antoniov. — Fri, 19 Aug 2005 08:13:30 GMT

Taulant,
my check list is:
a) Are you network administrator? If no, you have to ask for a tcp/ip address to assign to your host.
b) Have you enough memory? You need approx 150,000 blocks on HD; I don't forget how many RAM, it's better 256 Mb at minimun.
c) Have license loaded? TCP/IP is included in VMS; however if I remember you need of PAK.
d) Have you CD? TCP/IP is on VMS distribution media or else on Layered Products Distribution media.
e) What version of TCP/IP you can install? At now I don't remember. For V7.2 may be V5.3; I have to search for exact answer.
d) How install TCP/IP? Using PRODUCT INSTALL command.
f) Other question? You can read TCP/IP Software Product Description
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/info/SP4646/SP4646PF.PDF
and TCP/IP installation guide
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82FINAL/6524/6524pro.HTML

Antonio Vigliotti

Re: NTP Client configuration

Andy Bustamante — Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:26:33 GMT

I'm curious that you have ntpq available but don't have HP's TCPIP or UCCX installed.

Do either of either these commands list a file?

$ DIR SYS$SYSROOT:[MULTINET]START_MULTINET.COM
or
$ DIR SYS$SYSROOT:[TCPWARE]TCPWARE_LOGICALS.COM

There are other TCPIP stacks besides the default HP TCPIP product. If you an ntpq command available I suspect you're running one of the third party IP stacks.

Andy

Re: NTP Client configuration

Taulant Shamo — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 06:12:14 GMT

Only this file exist:

TCPWARE_LOGICALS.COM;1

The system use tcpware