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cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Syed Moinuddin_1 — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 09:22:16 GMT

After power failure [abnormal shutdown]the system unable to boot please help,if i press the halt button it able to be on the console
prompt P00>> or else the following messages appear disk space problem. I dont know how to make the space available to start the system normally , I am not having any backup nor any documentation for this server.
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P00>>boot
message from user SYSTEM on ALPHA
ERRFMT-Error Accessing error log file
ERRFMT-Deleting ERRFMT Process,error log file unwritable

Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE ON ALPHA
%QMAN_E_NODISKSPACE, disk space not available for queue mgr to continue
-QMAN-I-FREEDISK,free up 468 blocks on disk-ALPHA$DKA0

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Wim Van den Wyngaert — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 09:39:17 GMT

boot -fl 0,1

wait for prompt

set startup_p1 "MIN"
continue

wait for end of boot and login
delete some files (e.g. sys$manager:*.log or whatever you can find that is not needed or do a purge)

mc sysgen
>use current
>set startup_p1 ""
>write current
>exit

@sys$ystem:shutdown (and give answers for reboot)

Wim

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Karl Rohwedder — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 09:40:25 GMT

It seems, as if your systemdisk is full.

Try to boot minimal or from CDROM and check,
which files are occupying the spacse, perhaps a batchjob filled up its logfile or someone enabled all auditing...

>>> b -fl 0,1
SYSBOOT> set startup_p1 "MIN"
SYSBOOT> continue

regards Kalle

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Ian Miller. — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 09:40:30 GMT

It appears your system disk is full.
Perform a minimum boot and tidy up.

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Antoniov. — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 09:50:45 GMT

I agree.
Disk full. Boot minimal and purge files.

Antonio Vigliotti

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Syed Moinuddin_1 — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:21:57 GMT

thanks for the replies ,

I tried
P00>>boot -fl 0,1
SYSBOOT>set startup_p1 "MIN"

SYSBOOT>continue

The above errors messages of disk full and system stops at the following message,
cursor is blinking at the end of this message
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error opening SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]
%MAIL-E-SENDER,error sending to user SYSTEM
-MAIL-E-OPENOUT, error opening SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]MAIL.MAI as output
-SYSTEM-F-IVDEVNAM, invalid device name

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Antoniov. — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:33:42 GMT

After mail error message can you login into system?
If yes can you issue PURGE command?
How space do you have on system disk?

Antonio Vigliotti

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Syed Moinuddin_1 — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:38:43 GMT

Thanks for the reply, as I said earlier system stops at the message -SYSTEM-F-IVDEVNAM, invalid device name
none of the keys working , cursor remain blinking
1. I cannot login to system
2. PURGE not work
3. I exactly dont know how much space available on system [ how to check the avaialble space and free space]

Thanks
SyedMoin

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Ian Miller. — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:52:42 GMT

Follow the procedure here
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/faq/vmsfaq_006.html#mgmt5
then you will be logged in at $ prompt.
To check for free disk space

$ SHOW DEVICE DKA0

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Syed Moinuddin_1 — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:40:36 GMT

Thanks for ur kind help,
The note provided help me a lot and solved my problem , after deleting some files and restart the system still taking the parameters given in the note provided but if use SYSBOOT>use default
continue
it started successfully....

Thanks again for kind support.

Best Regards
Syed Moin

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Daniel Fernandez Illan — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 02:14:48 GMT

Hi
To recover automayic startup use (after reboot)
mc sysgen
USE CURRENT
SET/STARTUP SYS$SYSTEM:STARTUP.COM
WRITE CURRENT
EXIT

Saludos.
Daniel.

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Robert_Boyd — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:39:44 GMT

Syed,

With your system up and running again, you might want to install the FREEWARE utility DFU V2.7A and use the command

$ DFU SEARCH SYS$SYSDEVICE:/SIZE=MIN=10000

to find all of the files that are of a significant size on your system disk.

Of course, this doesn't find the files where you may have accumulated a large number of small files. There are ways to find those too.

I don't know if DFU will do something like this, but I like the command:

$ DIRECTORY SYS$SYSDEVICE:[*...]*.*;-100

This will find all files that have at least 100 versions. Or you could use 50 as a starting point.

Robert

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Uwe Zessin — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:45:24 GMT

Even without DFU:

$ set default sys$sysdevice:[000000]
$ directory /size=all /select=size=minimum=10000 -
sys$sysdevice:[000000...] -
/exclude= [sys*.syscommon...]*.*;*

(It's typed from memory/untested)

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Wim Van den Wyngaert — Thu, 25 Aug 2005 01:56:38 GMT

I justed tested a minimal boot with a full system disk.

Indeed there are messages about disk full but I was able to login and delete the file.

Your mail problem has something to do with a bad boot setup : something that is started in an incorrect place.

Wim

Re: cannot boot AlphaServer2000 Model 5/300 OS - OpenVMS ver 7.1

Wim Van den Wyngaert — Thu, 25 Aug 2005 02:01:44 GMT

Also add to Uwe's procedure :

$ set default sys$sysdevice:[000000]
$ directory /size=all sys$sysdevice:[000000...]*.*;-100

Wim