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PerfDat and other VMS performance tools

Daniel Jackson_2 — Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:36:49 GMT

Does anyone have up-to-date knowledge of PerfDat and/or Performance Analyzer, or any other CURRENT VMS performance tool? I need to know what the current strategy for VMS performance tools is, and where the detailed information about this lives. ANY THOUGHTS??

Re: PerfDat and other VMS performance tools

Andy Bustamante — Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:47:32 GMT

I haven't used PerfDat and/or Performance Analyzer. Current info is at http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/tdc/index.html

I can strongly recommend T4 http://h71000.www7.hp.com/OpenVMS/products/t4/index.html for system monitoring and historical tracking. This tool provides excellent monitoring, lends itself to adding your own metrics and stores historical performance data in a minimal amount of disk space. I've used some of nice graphs here in customer proposals justifying upgrades before performance goes south.

Availability Manager http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/availman/index.html is useful for monitoring and system "fixes" although there is no record of monitoring (Hi Barry) in the current version.

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/system_management.html also has additional information.

Andy

Re: PerfDat and other VMS performance tools

Ian Miller. — Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:45:18 GMT

WRT strategy hp are moving towards a common performance data collector called TDC
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/tdc/index.html

I expect T4 will be updated to read data collected by TDC. At present T4 reads data collected by MONITOR and its own data collectors.

There is also ECP
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ecp/index.html

The current version of the ECP analyzer reads data collected by TDC. I don't expect the ECP datacollector to be enhanced any more as the future data collector is TDC.

Re: PerfDat and other VMS performance tools

Daniel Jackson_2 — Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:39:32 GMT

Thanks folks. Good information that verifies what I was hearing. Thanks for your time and assistance!!

Re: PerfDat and other VMS performance tools

Ian Miller. — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 03:49:54 GMT

Daniel, Welcome to the VMS Forum. Lots of helpful people here :-)
See
http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/helptips.do?#33
for a description of the scheme used to indicate helpful answers and people.

Re: PerfDat and other VMS performance tools

Martin Vorlaender — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 04:10:20 GMT

>>>
I expect T4 will be updated to read data collected by TDC. At present T4 reads data collected by MONITOR and its own data collectors.
<<<

Ian,

in the course of trying to get TLviz off Windows, I re-implemented it in Java, and extended it to read ECP/TDC files, too. Haven't tried to run it under VMS yet, though.

It's not quite finished yet, let alone packaged for distribution, but if anybody wants to take a look: http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/JTLviz.jar . You'll need the JCommon and JFreechart libraries from http://www.jfree.org/ , too.

cu,
Martin

Re: PerfDat and other VMS performance tools

Willem Grooters — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 05:23:39 GMT

Good thing

< I re-implemented it in Java, >

to run it on Unix (any flavour): Ok (though it would not be my primary choice)
to run it on VMS? I'd prefer a NATIVE executable (so C/C++/Whaever). But better than nothing.

< and extended it to read ECP/TDC files, too.
Haven't tried to run it under VMS yet, though.>

Will be able to do that - even Java version - to see if it is usable. Even on an "entry level" machine, or an old one.
What Java version is required?

Willem

Re: PerfDat and other VMS performance tools

Martin Vorlaender — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 05:27:13 GMT

>>>
What Java version is required?
<<<

My environment was Java 1.4.2 with Netbeans 4.1 (under Windows - but don't tell anybody ;-)

cu,
Martin

Re: PerfDat and other VMS performance tools

Martin Vorlaender — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 05:45:21 GMT

The JTLviz sources - if anybody wants to try and compile their own - can be found at http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/JTLviz-src.zip (though I doubt the Makefile or directory structure will work with Netbeans 3.x).

cu,
Martin

Re: PerfDat and other VMS performance tools

Daniel Jackson_2 — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:11:35 GMT

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