topic URGENT Problem Installing Images in Operating System - OpenVMS

URGENT Problem Installing Images

Phillip Thayer — Wed, 26 Oct 2005 10:45:38 GMT

We had some system sharable images removed as installed images. One of the shareables that was removed was SMGSHR.EXE. So when I went in to install the executables back into the system I get the following error:

%DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image SMGSHR
-CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]SMGSHR.EXE;1
-SYSTEM-F-PRIVINSTALL, shareable images must be installed to run privileged image

This error is returned if I simply try to run install from the DCL prompt.

My problem is how do I install SMGSHR.EXE when the Install utility will not run without SMGSHR being installed.

This is a production system and I cannot simply reeboot at this time. I need a way to do this without rebooting. THIS IS URGENT.

Re: URGENT Problem Installing Images

Karl Rohwedder — Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:01:41 GMT

Phillip,

I have no VMS at my hands at the moment, but
how did you try to install SMGSHR?

Check SYS$MANAGER:VMSIMAGES.DAT, e.g.
SEARCH VMSIMAGES.DAT SMGSHR on how VMS would install it during boot.

regards Kalle

Re: URGENT Problem Installing Images

Phillip Thayer — Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:05:45 GMT

I did that and then tried to use the INSTALL utility to re-install SMGSHR.EXE as a sharable privileged image and that is when I got the error.

What I need to know is how to install the image without requiring the SMGSHR.EXE sharable image.

Phil

Re: URGENT Problem Installing Images

Daniel Fernandez Illan — Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:17:03 GMT

Hi.
You execute INSTALL command?
Are you check to execute $MC INSTALL and after install SMGSHR image as Kalle say? (using options in VMSIMAGES.DAT
Goog luck.
Saludos.
Daniel.

Re: URGENT Problem Installing Images

Phillip Thayer — Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:22:10 GMT

The install utility will not run unless it has the SMGSHR.EXE installed. To install the SMGSHR.EXE I need to run the install utility but to run the install utility I need to have SMGSHR.exe ....You get the idea. How do I run INSTALL without the SMGSHR.EXE requirement?

Phil

Re: URGENT Problem Installing Images

Uwe Zessin — Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:25:15 GMT

I wonder if INSTALL.EXE is installed (with privileges), too. In that case you can't run INSTALL, because it requires SMGSHR to be installed, no?

I'd try two things:
- run INSTALL.EXE;? (specify the version number)

- make a COPY of INSTALL.EXE and try to run this image

Re: URGENT Problem Installing Images

Arch_Muthiah — Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:27:24 GMT

Phillip,

So my suggestion would be start with give REMOVE/delete command again. So the imageÃ¢Â Â s entry on the KNOWN FILE LIST and any GBL sections created for the image are freed.

The try this...
INSTAL> delete smgshr.exe
INSTAL> add smgshr.exe/authpriv=(priv-name,,)

or try this

INSTAL> add smgshr.exe / shared=address_data

Note the image should be in sys$system.

see this link...
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82FINAL/aa-pv5nj-tk/00/00/49-con.html#instal-priv-shar

Thanks
Archunan

Re: URGENT Problem Installing Images

Karl Rohwedder — Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:31:11 GMT

Phillip,

you must run the INSTALL manually without invoking the installed one.

Try

$ run sys$sysdevice:[vms$common.sysexe]install
install> sys$share:smgshr/open/heade/share=addree/resi
install> ctrl/Z

regards Kalle

Re: URGENT Problem Installing Images

Phillip Thayer — Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:42:25 GMT

O.K. So there is a reason why Uwe has that neat little symbol next to his posts. He understood exactly what the problem was and gave me the answer. When I run the INSTALL.EXE with the version number it worked and I was able to install the SMGSHR.EXE as well as all the other installed images. Once I was able to get INSTALL to run I defined sys$input to SYS$MANAGER:VMSIMAGES.DAT and ran install and it quickly installed all the images in VMSIMAGES.DAT. Now I am only left with installing all of our application files.

Great work Uwe. Thanks a million for this one.

Re: URGENT Problem Installing Images

Phillip Thayer — Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:44:26 GMT

I assigned points to the responses from everyone. Once again, thanks Uwe.

Re: URGENT Problem Installing Images

Uwe Zessin — Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:47:39 GMT

Glad it worked for you !! I've stumbled across this 'feature' (";") in my VAX/VMS V4 days by accident ;-)

It is just a variation of Karl's trick: fool the image activator.

Re: URGENT Problem Installing Images

Wim Van den Wyngaert — Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:28:59 GMT

Nice job master Uwe.

Wim

Re: URGENT Problem Installing Images

Uwe Zessin — Wed, 26 Oct 2005 23:59:35 GMT

Excuse me, but what is that supposed to mean?