topic Re: printing from OpenVMS and W2003 network on same printer in Operating System - OpenVMS

printing from OpenVMS and W2003 network on same printer

Sandy Rosenberg_2 — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:22:13 GMT

When we send a print job from our AlphaServer to a queued printer that is also available on the Windows 2003 network, and, after it starts printing, someone sends a job from the W2003 network, the job from the PC interrupts the job from the alpha and prints right in the middle of it (usually on checks or some other special form). Is there some way to prevent this? The printer setup on the alpha uses TCPIP$TELNETSYM. It is a stand alone printer on the network.

Re: printing from OpenVMS and W2003 network on same printer

Karl Rohwedder — Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:25:38 GMT

This sounds more like a problem on the printerside. The TELNETSYM keeps the connections open until the job finishes and the printer should queues/block requests from other hosts. What kind of printer is this?

regards Kalle

Re: printing from OpenVMS and W2003 network on same printer

Ian Miller. — Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:44:06 GMT

do the W2003 systems connect to the printer using telnet or LPD?

It may be the printer has the telnet connection from the alphaserver and also (incorrectly) accepts a connection from lpd.

Re: printing from OpenVMS and W2003 network on same printer

Rudolf Wingert — Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:03:42 GMT

Hello,
your problem looks like a printjob synchronization problem (CRL-D).
Normaly only the OpenVMS node should be printserver. In case of this we have an LPD incoming queue to support the printer for Windows.
In your case, you have to change the printer driver settings. Something with CTRL-D. I am not a Windows man, so you have to ask some one of the Windowsw specialists.
Hope this help. Best regards Rudolf Wingert

Re: printing from OpenVMS and W2003 network on same printer

Sandy Rosenberg_2 — Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:10:21 GMT

Thanks to all who answered. The printer is an HP LJ 4200. I am printing directly to the printer from the alpha rather than printing to the printer queue on the print server. I am going to try to change this and see if it fixes the problem.

Re: printing from OpenVMS and W2003 network on same printer

Thomas Ritter — Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:16:40 GMT

Drop the telnet printing and use LPD. We have hundreds of print queues all LPD printing to numerious Coporate and private Windows LANS. Telnet printing is firewall friendly but has the problem you are experiencing.
LPD printing is straight forward to configure.

Re: printing from OpenVMS and W2003 network on same printer

Karl Rohwedder — Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:44:45 GMT

To support the last reply: you can even use DCPS now with LPD to use all the nice features of the printers.

regards Kalle

Re: printing from OpenVMS and W2003 network on same printer

Rudolf Wingert — Mon, 19 Dec 2005 08:14:27 GMT

Hello,
did you look at your Windows driver (Printers Properties). On our systems the Ctrl-D before printing is disabled and Ctrl-D after printing is enabled. AFAIK, the Ctrl-D before printing interrupts all active jobs, if it is enabled (on). If so set this feature to "off".
Best regards R. Wingert

Re: printing from OpenVMS and W2003 network on same printer

Sandy Rosenberg_2 — Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:20:21 GMT

I am unable to find any printer property dealing with a Ctrl-D. Does this property have some other name?

Re: printing from OpenVMS and W2003 network on same printer

Ian Miller. — Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:25:24 GMT

may be called bi-directional printing.
Basically its getting the printer to respond

Re: printing from OpenVMS and W2003 network on same printer

David Jones_21 — Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:56:06 GMT

We use DCPS on VMS to talk raw TCP/IP (port 9100) to our HP printers and then use SAMBA to present the print queues to the windows domain. Using the port 9100 interface lets us get an approximation of the pages printed.

Re: printing from OpenVMS and W2003 network on same printer

Rudolf Wingert — Tue, 20 Dec 2005 04:55:12 GMT

Hello,
I did found this with the following actions:
select the printer, open the properties window with the right mouse button, select the TAB device settings. There you should see the output protocoll, Ctrl+D action before and after job scheduling, time limits, etc. Hope this helps.
Best regards Rudolf Wingert