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    <title>topic Re: Oracle/RDB page corruption. Complete restore required. in Operating System - OpenVMS</title>
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    <description>Thomas,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;  A disk error on a shadow set? How many members? If it's two or more members, a disk error seems unlikely. Are there any error log entries from the time window? I'd expect something for any type of memory or disk hardware error.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;  I don't see any condition codes for the read error, perhaps there's something in the bugcheck dump file?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 21:47:05 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>John Gillings</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2006-07-19T21:47:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Oracle/RDB page corruption. Complete restore required.</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/oracle-rdb-page-corruption-complete-restore-required/m-p/3826961#M77768</link>
      <description>&lt;!--!*#--&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;We had  to restore the production oracle/rdb database because of the following error. Incremental recoveries failed.  A complete delete and restore was performed. In the 10 years as system manager at this site, this is the third time such a problem has occurred First in 1996, then 2002 and now 2006. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;From OPCOM we have &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  19-JUL-2006 16:02:06.15  %%%%%%%%%%%&lt;BR /&gt;Message from user API_PROD on WIZ22&lt;BR /&gt;Oracle Rdb V7.1-441 Event Notification for Database&lt;BR /&gt;DSA30:[WIZ_CMPRD.DATA.RDB30]WIZARD_DATA.RDB;1&lt;BR /&gt;Requested page 15:330926, received page 0:0; retrying disk read&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  19-JUL-2006 16:02:06.16  %%%%%%%%%%%&lt;BR /&gt;Message from user API_PROD on WIZ22&lt;BR /&gt;Oracle Rdb V7.1-441 Event Notification for Database&lt;BR /&gt;DSA30:[WIZ_CMPRD.DATA.RDB30]WIZARD_DATA.RDB;1&lt;BR /&gt;Process 2BE11FE2 generating bugcheck dump file&lt;BR /&gt;DISK071:[RDMBUGCHK]RDSBUGCHK.DMP;&lt;BR /&gt;Exception at 13792BD4 : PIOFETCH$VALIDATE_PAGE + 000003C4&lt;BR /&gt;%RDMS-F-CANTREADDBS, error reading pages 15:330926-330926&lt;BR /&gt;-RDMS-F-BADPAGRED, read requesting physical page 15:330926 returned page 0:0&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt; Output from one of the bugcheck dumps indicating page corruption&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Alpha OpenVMS 7.3-2&lt;BR /&gt;Oracle Rdb Server 7.1.4.4.1&lt;BR /&gt;Got a RDSBUGCHK.DMP&lt;BR /&gt;RDMS-F-CANTREADDBS, error reading pages 15:330926-330926&lt;BR /&gt;RDMS-F-BADPAGRED, read requesting physical page 15:330926 returned page 0:0&lt;BR /&gt;Exception occurred at PIOFETCH$VALIDATE_PAGE + 000003C4&lt;BR /&gt;Called from PIOFETCH$FETCH + 00000AD4&lt;BR /&gt;Called from PIO$FETCH + 00000904&lt;BR /&gt;Called from PIO$UPDATE_FIB + 0000029C&lt;BR /&gt;Bugcheck accessing storage area CUSTOMER_DESCRIP_SA, area id 15&lt;BR /&gt;TSNBLK COMMIT_TSN higher than next TSN (0:429813568)&lt;BR /&gt;Line TSN higher than next TSN (0:429813568)&lt;BR /&gt;Running image JAVA$JAVA.EXE&lt;BR /&gt;Dump created: 19-JUL-2006 16:41:38.09&lt;BR /&gt;Database root: WIZ_CMPRD_DB:[000000]WIZARD_DATA&lt;BR /&gt;This bugcheck may have been caused by a corrupt TSN block.&lt;BR /&gt;The database should be verified to check for such corruption.&lt;BR /&gt;Suggested command: RMU/VERIFY WIZ_CMPRD_DB:[000000]WIZARD_DATA&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Output from verify command&lt;BR /&gt;%RMU-W-SPAMFRELN, area CUSTOMER_DESCRIP_SA, page 330926&lt;BR /&gt;                  error in space management page's free space length&lt;BR /&gt;                  expected: 2996, found: 0&lt;BR /&gt;%RMU-W-PAGERRORS,       3 page errors encountered&lt;BR /&gt;                        2 page header format errors&lt;BR /&gt;                        0 page tail format errors&lt;BR /&gt;                        0 area bitmap format errors&lt;BR /&gt;                        0 area inventory format errors&lt;BR /&gt;                        0 line index format errors&lt;BR /&gt;                        0 segment format errors&lt;BR /&gt;                        1 space management page format error&lt;BR /&gt;                        0 differences in space management of data pages&lt;BR /&gt;%RMU-I-ESGPGLARE, completed verification of WIZ_CUSTOMER_DESCRIP logical area&lt;BR /&gt;                  as part of CUSTOMER_DESCRIP_SA storage area&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Output from rmu/show corrupt&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;WIZ22_CMPRD $ rmu/show corrupt wizard_data&lt;BR /&gt;*------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;BR /&gt;* Oracle Rdb V7.1-441 19-JUL-2006 17:56:29.62&lt;BR /&gt;*&lt;BR /&gt;* Dump of Corrupt Page Table&lt;BR /&gt;* Database: WIZ_CMPRD_DB:[000000]WIZARD_DATA.RDB;&lt;BR /&gt;*&lt;BR /&gt;*------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;BR /&gt;Entries for storage area CUSTOMER_DESCRIP_SA&lt;BR /&gt;--------------------------------------------&lt;BR /&gt;Page 330926&lt;BR /&gt;- AIJ recovery sequence number is -1&lt;BR /&gt;- Live area ID number is 15&lt;BR /&gt;- Consistency transaction sequence number is 0:0&lt;BR /&gt;- State of page is: corrupt&lt;BR /&gt;*------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;A page in one of the storage areas was "corrupted". Initial diagnose using RMU/Verify did not indicate a problem. We closed and opened the database. The RMU/Verify did then indicate a corrupt storage area. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Oracle's general reponse is that this problem was caused by hardware either memory or disk or both. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;A patched version of Oracle/RDB was installed this week.  &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;$ rmu/show ver&lt;BR /&gt;Executing RMU for Oracle Rdb V7.1-441&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The previous version was Executing RMU for Oracle Rdb V7.1-401 &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;We are running VMS 7.3-2. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The initial Oracle reponse shifts the onus to the system managers to prove that hardware was not the underlying cause. No hardware exception have been raised. Our Production environments host 9 oracle/rdb databases. Only one was broken.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;What's  your view ? &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 20:31:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/oracle-rdb-page-corruption-complete-restore-required/m-p/3826961#M77768</guid>
      <dc:creator>Thomas Ritter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-07-19T20:31:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Oracle/RDB page corruption. Complete restore required.</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/oracle-rdb-page-corruption-complete-restore-required/m-p/3826962#M77769</link>
      <description>Thomas,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;  A disk error on a shadow set? How many members? If it's two or more members, a disk error seems unlikely. Are there any error log entries from the time window? I'd expect something for any type of memory or disk hardware error.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;  I don't see any condition codes for the read error, perhaps there's something in the bugcheck dump file?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 21:47:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/oracle-rdb-page-corruption-complete-restore-required/m-p/3826962#M77769</guid>
      <dc:creator>John Gillings</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-07-19T21:47:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Oracle/RDB page corruption. Complete restore required.</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/oracle-rdb-page-corruption-complete-restore-required/m-p/3826963#M77770</link>
      <description>Thomas,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;in a case like this, I would like to see an OpenVMS DUMP output of the database page(s) involved - but it may be too late to ask for that ;-(&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;That would allow you to 'see' the on-disk contents and may allow you to spot any unusual patterns. It should at least allow Oracle to diagnose the extent of the 'corruption' (just a byte/word/longword etc.). From the extent of the corruption, you could then speculate about possible reasons for this to have happened. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Volker.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:24:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/oracle-rdb-page-corruption-complete-restore-required/m-p/3826963#M77770</guid>
      <dc:creator>Volker Halle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-07-20T00:24:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Oracle/RDB page corruption. Complete restore required.</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/oracle-rdb-page-corruption-complete-restore-required/m-p/3826964#M77771</link>
      <description>All disks are two member shadowsets. errlog.sys on all nodes looks good. &lt;BR /&gt;RDB was patched on the morning of the 18th.&lt;BR /&gt;V7.1-401 to 7.1-441.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:42:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/oracle-rdb-page-corruption-complete-restore-required/m-p/3826964#M77771</guid>
      <dc:creator>Thomas Ritter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-07-20T00:42:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Oracle/RDB page corruption. Complete restore required.</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/oracle-rdb-page-corruption-complete-restore-required/m-p/3826965#M77772</link>
      <description>I have seen this problem a few times,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;sometimes, on old version of Rdb this was a memory only corruption in the global buffer structure, but this problem is fixed for a long time. The workaround was just to close/open the database.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I have also encounter this problem on another site where the culprit was the firmware of some disks... But each time doing a rmu/restore/just then rmu/recover/just fixed the problem and this can be done online :-)&lt;BR /&gt;I strongly suggest you add journals (AIJ) to your database.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;You may also check revision of firmware of your disks and controllers.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;JF&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 02:59:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/oracle-rdb-page-corruption-complete-restore-required/m-p/3826965#M77772</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jean-François Piéronne</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-07-20T02:59:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Oracle/RDB page corruption. Complete restore required.</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/oracle-rdb-page-corruption-complete-restore-required/m-p/3826966#M77773</link>
      <description>Jean,we tried online recovery work but failed. RDB reported a warning. The full restore was our last step taken. Restoring from tape has its own risks. All of our disk are shadowed. I just hope the patch is not the problem. &lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:55:21 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Thomas Ritter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-07-20T03:55:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Oracle/RDB page corruption. Complete restore required.</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/oracle-rdb-page-corruption-complete-restore-required/m-p/3826967#M77774</link>
      <description>And the warning was (just for my information)?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;You may have some warnings, for example RMU-W-NOTRANAPP or RMU-W-USERECCOM&lt;BR /&gt;which are not fatal, these are just warnings.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;JF</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 07:27:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/oracle-rdb-page-corruption-complete-restore-required/m-p/3826967#M77774</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jean-François Piéronne</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-07-20T07:27:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Oracle/RDB page corruption. Complete restore required.</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/oracle-rdb-page-corruption-complete-restore-required/m-p/3826968#M77775</link>
      <description>All 3 times you have had to restore the DB, was it always the same error you were getting ?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I too have had Rdb corruption in the past, and get a similar response from Oracle.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Obviously over the years you have upgraded the OS &amp;amp; Rdb versions (7.3-2 &amp;amp; 7.1-441), but has the hardware always remained the same ?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Are running the latest F/W on your I/O sub-system ?  What about ECO patches for 7.3-2 (FIBRE_SCSI in particular).&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Jeff</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:10:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Jefferson Humber</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-07-20T17:10:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Oracle/RDB page corruption. Complete restore required.</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/oracle-rdb-page-corruption-complete-restore-required/m-p/3826969#M77776</link>
      <description>JF, the error messages were different each time. I meant to write we have three RDB failures which required a complete restore. The failures were all different. The HW is upto date and are the VMS patches. We are forutunate in that testing our recovery procedures is an ongoing process.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 08:41:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Thomas Ritter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-07-21T08:41:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Oracle/RDB page corruption. Complete restore required.</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/oracle-rdb-page-corruption-complete-restore-required/m-p/3826970#M77777</link>
      <description>Many years ago, we started receiving the 'retrying' RDB OPCOM message. The retrys must have always worked because we never received the second message bugcheck OPCOM message.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;By moving the preferred paths around for the disks that contained our RDB database, I was able to determine that an HSJ controller was the common link. We replaced the HSJ controller and never saw the message again. I added the OPCOM message to my ConsoleWork's scan profile to ensure I'd pick it up again if it ever returned.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;At no point did the HSJ controller/disks log any type of error message.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Based on my experience, I would agree with Oracle that you likely have a hardware issue.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;-Jeff&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 09:26:12 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Jeffrey Goodwin</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-07-21T09:26:12Z</dc:date>
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