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    <title>topic Re: Bringing data from tape in Operating System - OpenVMS</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bringing-data-from-tape/m-p/3829542#M77858</link>
    <description>Nipun,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;A note of caution. BACKUP does its own management of the tape in the event of errors. Using COPY to copy the entire tape may produce problems.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;- Bob Gezelter, &lt;A href="http://www.rlgsc.com" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.rlgsc.com&lt;/A&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 14:26:30 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Robert Gezelter</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2006-07-24T14:26:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Bringing data from tape</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bringing-data-from-tape/m-p/3829540#M77856</link>
      <description>Hi, I wanted to confirm the following &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I have data backed up on tape with following save set name &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;$ dir tp0:[000000]*.*;*&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Directory TP0:[]&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;00002058_IMA.SAV;1&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;After which I listed the contents of the save set&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;$ backup /list tp0:00002058_IMA.SAV;1&lt;BR /&gt;Listing of save set(s)&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Save set:          00002058_IMA.SAV&lt;BR /&gt;Written by:        MICROCT&lt;BR /&gt;UIC:               [000200,000030]&lt;BR /&gt;Date:              24-OCT-2002 10:45:03.52&lt;BR /&gt;Command:           BACKUP/NOASSIST DK0:[MICROCT.DATA.00001589.00002058]*.*;*/EXCL=*.RSQ;*&lt;BR /&gt;TP0:00002058_IMA.SAV/LOG/EXACT/LABEL=(KIMA01,XXXXXX)/BLOCKSIZE=65534/MEDIA_FORMAT=NOCOMPAC&lt;BR /&gt;TION&lt;BR /&gt;Operating system:  OpenVMS Alpha version V7.2&lt;BR /&gt;BACKUP version:    AXP721R0018&lt;BR /&gt;CPU ID register:   80000000&lt;BR /&gt;Node name:         _SC4008::&lt;BR /&gt;Written on:        _SC4008$MKB500:&lt;BR /&gt;Block size:        65024&lt;BR /&gt;Group size:        10&lt;BR /&gt;Buffer count:      68&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;[MICROCT.DATA.00001589.00002058]C0002105.AIM;1          16135  17-SEP-2002 09:14&lt;BR /&gt;[MICROCT.DATA.00001589.00002058]C0002105.GOBJ;4            31   8-OCT-2002 15:17&lt;BR /&gt;[MICROCT.DATA.00001589.00002058]C0002105.GOBJ;3            93  17-SEP-2002 08:48&lt;BR /&gt;[MICROCT.DATA.00001589.00002058]C0002105.GOBJ;2            67  17-SEP-2002 08:47&lt;BR /&gt;[MICROCT.DATA.00001589.00002058]C0002105.GOBJ;1            53  17-SEP-2002 08:46&lt;BR /&gt;[MICROCT.DATA.00001589.00002058]C0002105.ISQ;1        1118209   8-SEP-2002 10:10&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;So my question is for backup operation to bring the files shown above on my hard drive what would be the command with qualifiers &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;One way I thought of is &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;$backup tp0:[000000]00002058_IMA.SAV;1  [.testdir...]*.*;* /log&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;This should automatically bring all the contents of the saveset in the "testdir" folder &lt;BR /&gt;Is that correct ?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Is there a way I can simply copy all the savesets into the directory &lt;BR /&gt;e.g&lt;BR /&gt;$backup tp0:[000000]*.SAV;1  [.testdir...]*.*;* /log&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I am using OpenVMS V7.3-2. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks in advance.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 14:09:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bringing-data-from-tape/m-p/3829540#M77856</guid>
      <dc:creator>nipun_2</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-07-24T14:09:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bringing data from tape</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bringing-data-from-tape/m-p/3829541#M77857</link>
      <description>The BACKUP utility will always try to 'open' a save-set that is stored on tape. You can work around this by mounting the tape non-foreign and using COPY:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;$ mount /override=identification tp0:&lt;BR /&gt;$ copy tp0:[]*.SAV [.testdir...] /log&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;While a tape does not have any subdirectories, it is a good idea to use [] or even [000000], because there can be a side-effect if your default context sits on a logical name search list (e.g. SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]). This can result in multiple file copies, because RMS grabs each entry from the search list.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 14:23:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bringing-data-from-tape/m-p/3829541#M77857</guid>
      <dc:creator>Uwe Zessin</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-07-24T14:23:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bringing data from tape</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bringing-data-from-tape/m-p/3829542#M77858</link>
      <description>Nipun,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;A note of caution. BACKUP does its own management of the tape in the event of errors. Using COPY to copy the entire tape may produce problems.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;- Bob Gezelter, &lt;A href="http://www.rlgsc.com" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.rlgsc.com&lt;/A&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 14:26:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bringing-data-from-tape/m-p/3829542#M77858</guid>
      <dc:creator>Robert Gezelter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-07-24T14:26:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bringing data from tape</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bringing-data-from-tape/m-p/3829543#M77859</link>
      <description>Yes, but in most cases, BACKUP's redundancy groups are not helpful, because the tape drive no longer allows positioning behind an unrecoverable error. And I am very confident that COPY will report errors, so you don't have a silent corruption&lt;BR /&gt;- assuming you have not turned of error messages with "$ SET MESSAGE", of course ;-)</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 14:32:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bringing-data-from-tape/m-p/3829543#M77859</guid>
      <dc:creator>Uwe Zessin</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-07-24T14:32:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bringing data from tape</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bringing-data-from-tape/m-p/3829544#M77860</link>
      <description>You will be unable to take Uwe's suggestion of copying the saveset from tape to disk ... the Block Size is too large.  The largest a block size can be is 32,256.  You'll need to change the procedure that's backing up to tape if you want the ability to COPY the saveset to disk.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;In your case, you need to MOUNT/FOREIGN TP0: first, then you can issue your command but leave out the [000000] ie:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;$ mount/foreign tp0:&lt;BR /&gt;$backup tp0:00002058_IMA.SAV;1/save_set [.testdir...]*.*;* /log&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;With [.testdir] being a subdirectory of wherever you are at the time of issuing the command, it will then create the (sub)directory structure from that point ie.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;[currentdir.testdir.MICROCT.DATA.00001589.00002058]&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;HTH,&lt;BR /&gt;Art</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:33:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bringing-data-from-tape/m-p/3829544#M77860</guid>
      <dc:creator>Art Wiens</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-07-24T15:33:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bringing data from tape</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bringing-data-from-tape/m-p/3829545#M77861</link>
      <description>Do not forget /own=orig if you want to preserve security.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;And if you got the syntax wrong, you can still rename directories.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Wim</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:04:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/bringing-data-from-tape/m-p/3829545#M77861</guid>
      <dc:creator>Wim Van den Wyngaert</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-07-25T09:04:43Z</dc:date>
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