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    <title>topic Re: Problem running T4 trial session in Operating System - OpenVMS</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/problem-running-t4-trial-session/m-p/4059515#M86120</link>
    <description>Regina,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;That may be so, but in the mean time there still is something wrong with the definition. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Some typo? like an O/0 (Ohh/ZerO) confusion?&lt;BR /&gt;A colon too many?&lt;BR /&gt;Double quoted either side? Should not.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The error shown has NOTHING to do with T4 itself and everthing with basic device/directory/logical-name navigation.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;For further help please check with a peer, and if reporting here be sure to include the output for &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;$SHOW LOG T4$SYS   [ /all ]&lt;BR /&gt;$SHOW LOG for anything left of the colon&lt;BR /&gt;$SHOW DEV T4$SYS (will follow logical)&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Also, Maybe you have a DCL$PATH logical set up to murking the waters?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Hth,&lt;BR /&gt;Hein.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;$ set def sys$system&lt;BR /&gt;$ @test:afwerf&lt;BR /&gt;$ show log test&lt;BR /&gt;%SHOW-S-NOTRAN, no translation for logical name TEST&lt;BR /&gt;$ show log test:&lt;BR /&gt;%SHOW-S-NOTRAN, no translation for logical name TEST:&lt;BR /&gt;$ @test:something-silly&lt;BR /&gt;%DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening TEST:[SYSEXE]SOMETHING-SILLY.COM; as input&lt;BR /&gt;-RMS-F-DEV, error in device name or inappropriate device type for operation&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:49:07 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Hein van den Heuvel</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-08-23T20:49:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Problem running T4 trial session</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/problem-running-t4-trial-session/m-p/4059510#M86115</link>
      <description>I'm in the process or running a T4 trial session and its giving me the following error message:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;$ @T4$SYS:T4$CONFIG.COM&lt;BR /&gt;%DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening T4$SYS:[SYSEXE]T4$CONFIG.COM; as input&lt;BR /&gt;-RMS-F-DEV, error in device name or inappropriate device type for operation&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Assistance would be appreciated...thanks!</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:21:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/problem-running-t4-trial-session/m-p/4059510#M86115</guid>
      <dc:creator>Regina Taylor</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-08-23T15:21:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem running T4 trial session</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/problem-running-t4-trial-session/m-p/4059511#M86116</link>
      <description>Regina,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;this looks very much like you are missing the T4$SYS logical name, in the scope of the executing process.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;(If it IS defined, check that it has the /ATTRIBUTE=COBCEALED )&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;hth&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Proost.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Have one on me.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;jpe</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:27:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/problem-running-t4-trial-session/m-p/4059511#M86116</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jan van den Ende</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-08-23T15:27:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem running T4 trial session</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/problem-running-t4-trial-session/m-p/4059512#M86117</link>
      <description>Regina,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Check that you have defined the base T4 environment per the release notes. As Jan has noted, that includes the T4$SYS logical name.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;- Bob Gezelter, &lt;A href="http://www.rlgsc.com" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.rlgsc.com&lt;/A&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:48:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/problem-running-t4-trial-session/m-p/4059512#M86117</guid>
      <dc:creator>Robert Gezelter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-08-23T16:48:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem running T4 trial session</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/problem-running-t4-trial-session/m-p/4059513#M86118</link>
      <description>All,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I did define T4$SYS and T4$DATA as the guide tells you to but I still get the same message.  I also included the /ATTRIBUTE=COBCEALED but unfortunately that didn't work either.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:31:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/problem-running-t4-trial-session/m-p/4059513#M86118</guid>
      <dc:creator>Regina Taylor</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-08-23T20:31:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem running T4 trial session</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/problem-running-t4-trial-session/m-p/4059514#M86119</link>
      <description>Regina,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;It is difficult to know precisely what you are looking at.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Where are the files that were installed from the T4 kit? What are the contents of the logical names?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;- Bob Gezelter, &lt;A href="http://www.rlgsc.com" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.rlgsc.com&lt;/A&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:42:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/problem-running-t4-trial-session/m-p/4059514#M86119</guid>
      <dc:creator>Robert Gezelter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-08-23T20:42:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem running T4 trial session</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/problem-running-t4-trial-session/m-p/4059515#M86120</link>
      <description>Regina,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;That may be so, but in the mean time there still is something wrong with the definition. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Some typo? like an O/0 (Ohh/ZerO) confusion?&lt;BR /&gt;A colon too many?&lt;BR /&gt;Double quoted either side? Should not.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The error shown has NOTHING to do with T4 itself and everthing with basic device/directory/logical-name navigation.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;For further help please check with a peer, and if reporting here be sure to include the output for &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;$SHOW LOG T4$SYS   [ /all ]&lt;BR /&gt;$SHOW LOG for anything left of the colon&lt;BR /&gt;$SHOW DEV T4$SYS (will follow logical)&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Also, Maybe you have a DCL$PATH logical set up to murking the waters?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Hth,&lt;BR /&gt;Hein.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;$ set def sys$system&lt;BR /&gt;$ @test:afwerf&lt;BR /&gt;$ show log test&lt;BR /&gt;%SHOW-S-NOTRAN, no translation for logical name TEST&lt;BR /&gt;$ show log test:&lt;BR /&gt;%SHOW-S-NOTRAN, no translation for logical name TEST:&lt;BR /&gt;$ @test:something-silly&lt;BR /&gt;%DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening TEST:[SYSEXE]SOMETHING-SILLY.COM; as input&lt;BR /&gt;-RMS-F-DEV, error in device name or inappropriate device type for operation&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:49:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/problem-running-t4-trial-session/m-p/4059515#M86120</guid>
      <dc:creator>Hein van den Heuvel</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-08-23T20:49:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem running T4 trial session</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/problem-running-t4-trial-session/m-p/4059516#M86121</link>
      <description>Regina,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I did define T4$SYS and T4$DATA as the guide tells you to&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Could you specify EXACTLY (copy/paste) how you did do that?&lt;BR /&gt;Quite obviously something did not work out well enough. Could be a typo, could be unsufficiently detailed instruction.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;From the available info, and past experience, I tend to suspect a missing "."  (fill stop) in the T4$SYS definition just before the closing square bracket "]", but that is just my best guess.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Tell us more, help us helping you!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Proost. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Have one on me.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;jpe</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 02:25:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/problem-running-t4-trial-session/m-p/4059516#M86121</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jan van den Ende</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-08-24T02:25:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem running T4 trial session</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/problem-running-t4-trial-session/m-p/4059517#M86122</link>
      <description>Regina,&lt;BR /&gt;I have T4 running but I'm not on mys system so I have to dig into my memory - and it may be faulty...&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;...error opening T4$SYS:[SYSEXE]T4$CONFIG.COM...&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;and you're running form SYS$SYSTEM?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;In that case, your definition T4$SYS is incorrect, or you specified the wrong location.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;You have:&lt;BR /&gt;- NOT specified T4$SYS as a logical.&lt;BR /&gt;- You have specified T4$SYS as "&lt;LOGDEV&gt;:[&lt;PATH-TO-T4&gt;.]/TRANS=(CONCEALED TERMINAL)&lt;BR /&gt;where &lt;LOGDEV&gt; is yet another (concealed) logical. In that case: remove the TERMINAL attribute. If &lt;LOGDEV&gt; is not defined, you need to do that before you can use this specification. If &lt;LEGDEV&gt; refers to a device, the TERMINAL attribute applies.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;My recollection is that T4$SYS is a plain logical location, so &lt;LOGDEV&gt;:[&lt;PATH-TO-T4&gt;] - where &lt;LOGDEV&gt; should refer to a physical disk, or be properly defined.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;HTH&lt;/LOGDEV&gt;&lt;/PATH-TO-T4&gt;&lt;/LOGDEV&gt;&lt;/LEGDEV&gt;&lt;/LOGDEV&gt;&lt;/LOGDEV&gt;&lt;/PATH-TO-T4&gt;&lt;/LOGDEV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:02:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/problem-running-t4-trial-session/m-p/4059517#M86122</guid>
      <dc:creator>Willem Grooters</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-08-24T07:02:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem running T4 trial session</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/problem-running-t4-trial-session/m-p/4059518#M86123</link>
      <description>Just checked.&lt;BR /&gt;On my system, I defined T4$SYS as:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;$ sho log t4$*0/full&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;  "T4$DATA" [exec] = "userdisk:[t4.data]"&lt;BR /&gt;  "T4$SYS" [exec] = "USERDISK:[T4.T4$SYS]"&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;USERDISK is the name used when mounting the disk - so I don't require anything more.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:32:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/problem-running-t4-trial-session/m-p/4059518#M86123</guid>
      <dc:creator>Willem Grooters</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-08-27T10:32:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem running T4 trial session</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/problem-running-t4-trial-session/m-p/4059519#M86124</link>
      <description>So,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;my comment about T4$SYS as a concealed device was totally inappropriate. Pleas ignore it.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Proost.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Have one on me.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;jpe</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:44:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-openvms/problem-running-t4-trial-session/m-p/4059519#M86124</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jan van den Ende</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-08-27T10:44:00Z</dc:date>
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